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Unrelating is an all new podcast that explores relationships, why we do what we do, and what causes people to "un-relate". Join Kelly & Michelle as they talk to real people about the relationship challenges they face and provide an expert to help them sort it all out. Unrelating is hosted by show producer Kelly Beck and relationship expert Michelle Schafer. Michelle is a Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist who has been providing individual and couple’s therapy for two decades. Michelle has her Bachelor’s degree in Biopsychology and Cognitive Science from the University of Michigan and a Master’s in Clinical Psychology, with an emphasis in Marriage and Family Therapy, from Pepperdine. Through her practice, she has seen patterns and themes that connect us as people. Her scientific background will help us learn about the brain mechanisms that influence our behavior. And her psychology background will help us figure out if we should continue in the rel
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Signup to Generate a PitchUnrelating is an all new podcast that explores relationships, why we do what we do, and what causes people to "un-relate". Join Kelly & Michelle as they talk to real people about the relationship challenges they face and provide an expert to help them sort it all out.
Unrelating with Kel & Michelle is hosted by Kel & Michelle. The show has published 108 episodes to date.
Recent episodes include "Unrelating With Kel & Michelle Episode 59 Deep Dive: The Emotional Maturity" (30 October 2026, 4 minutes), "The Emotional Vote" (28 October 2026, 56 minutes), and "Unrelating With Kel & Michelle Episode 58 Deep Dive: Learn to Listen to Your Partner's LUST Language" (16 October 2026, 4 minutes).
Unrelating with Kel & Michelle publishes roughly every two weeks, with episodes averaging 32 minutes across 108 episodes.
Booking probability for Unrelating with Kel & Michelle is 34%, and the host is rated Selective on guests. Unrelating with Kel & Michelle requires a Pod Score of 80 or higher. Unrelating with Kel & Michelle's contact route on record: verified email.
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Kel & Michelle hosts Unrelating with Kel & Michelle, a society podcast with 108 episodes published.
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Unrelating with Kel & Michelle
To recap Unrelating With Kel & Michelle Episode 59 with researcher William Ballas, Michelle talks about considerations around voting and not voting, and some of the psychological dynamics at play, such as emotional...
Episode #59
Just in time for the midterm U.S. elections, Kel and Michelle sit down for a thoughtful conversation with William Ballas, researcher and author of the new book "The Architect: Authoritarianism, the Political Mind, and...
Unrelating with Kel & Michelle
In this deep dive for Episode 58 with intimacy expert Susan Bratton, Michelle reflects on a theme from the show about learning what your partner likes and how important that is to the health of your relationship. Susan...
Episode #58
Get ready for an eye-opening conversation when Kel & Michelle sit down with intimacy expert and author Susan Bratton as she introduces us to her FLESH framework for couples, how to openly talk about women’s orgasms...
Episode #57
Send us Fan Mail Kel and Michelle answer your questions! First, we tackle how partners can stop keeping score with each other and avoid letting resentment build up. And we welcome back educational consultant and life...
Unrelating with Kel & Michelle
Send us Fan Mail In this deep dive, Michelle returns to one of her favorite themes to talk about how to Mind the Gap, like Kirsten discussed on the show. Kirsten Davidson is the owner of Mind The Gaps Psychotherapy in...
Episode #56
Send us Fan Mail Kel and Michelle sit down with psychotherapist Kirsten Davidson to explore the reasons people may struggle connecting with others, what it means to do parts-work, ways to reframe the way we speak to...
Unrelating with Kel & Michelle
Send us Fan Mail In this deep dive after Gary Ras's show, Michelle focuses the spotlight on scaling, one of her favorite interventions for understanding and managing your feelings. To ask us a question, suggest a topic...
Episode #55
Send us Fan Mail Ever heard of tapping? Get ready for a thought-provoking conversation when Kel & Michelle sit down with Gary Ras, a healer specializing in energy healing techniques. Listen as Gary explains how...
Unrelating with Kel & Michelle
Send us Fan Mail Based on our show with Machan Taylor, Michelle talks more in depth about abusive relationships and what healthy and safe relationships look like. To ask us a question, suggest a topic or be our next...
Unrelating with Kel & Michelle
Send us Fan Mail Kel and Michelle sit down for an intimate and open conversation with Machan Taylor. Having performed with some of the biggest bands in the world, Machan is a singer, songwriter, educator, and author of...
Unrelating with Kel & Michelle
Send us Fan Mail In this deep dive for Unrelating With Kel & Michelle Episode 53, Michelle touches on how David was able to use skills after he healed that enhance his life, and what we can do to manage our feelings...
Episode #53
Send us Fan Mail Kel and Michelle sit down with David Deane Haskell, author of the memoir "Wounded Angels", for a powerful conversation about losing his mother at a young age and the grief, sadness, and self-destructive...
Unrelating with Kel & Michelle
Send us Fan Mail On this deep dive for Unrelating With Kel & Michelle Episode 52, Michelle expands on a theme from Julia's show about increasing confidence, focusing here on building skills to communicate hard...
Unrelating with Kel & Michelle
Send us Fan Mail It might be summer, but school's in session! Kel and Michelle sit down with educational consultant and life coach Julia Evans to break down how professionals and students can overcome self-doubt...
Unrelating with Kel & Michelle
In this deep dive for Unrelating With Kel & Michelle Episode 51, Michelle discusses a phrase from Stephen's show on how to conceptualize what happens to us. To ask us a question, suggest a topic or be our next on-air...
Unrelating with Kel & Michelle
<p>In this deep dive for Unrelating With Kel & Michelle Episode 51, Michelle discusses a phrase from Stephen's show on how to conceptualize what happens to us.</p><p>To ask us a question, suggest a topic or be our<b>...
Episode #51
Kel & Michelle sit down with Dr. Stephen Paul Edwards, author of the book "The Venus Fly Trap: Sex, Lies and Repercussions." Based on his personal journey and life lessons, they discuss how chaos can be a catalyst for...
Episode #51
<p>Kel & Michelle sit down with Dr. Stephen Paul Edwards, author of the book "The Venus Fly Trap: Sex, Lies and Repercussions." Based on his personal journey and life lessons, they discuss how chaos can be a catalyst...
Unrelating with Kel & Michelle
In this deep dive for Unrelating With Kel & Michelle Episode 50 with author Alicia Barr, Michelle busts out the feelings wheel to help you get to the heart of your true emotions. Find a feelings wheel at...
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