Unlearning in Progress

A podcast for women rising - not just in title, but in self. ​ Unlearning in Progress is a podcast for women who did everything “right” - earned the titles, checked the boxes, read the books, took the trainings, and did what they were told. But there’s now a feeling that they can’t shake and are now left wondering, “So why doesn’t this feel like success?” ​ Hosted by two recovering perfectionists and corporate veterans, Jaime Waterfield and Angela Cope unpack the parts of leadership no one puts on LinkedIn: the doubts behind the confidence, the burnout behind the ambition, the growth that doesn’t come with a promotion, and the exploration of self. ​ Each episode explores what it looks like to rise, not just in title, but in self. Through real talk, lived experience, and lessons learned the hard way. Jaime and Angela are on a mission to keep learning, growing, and teaching others how to lead with more self-trust, less performance pressure, an

Unlearning in Progress is a society podcast hosted by Angela Cope & Jaime Waterfield, with 25 episodes on record and a Required Pod Score of 80. PitchCentric scores this show on Booking Probability, Listen Score, and live audience signals refreshed every 24 hours.

Angela Cope & Jaime Waterfield hosts Unlearning in Progress, a society show with 25 episodes published.

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  Episode #7

  Sitting in the Unknown: Redefining Career, Purpose, and What Comes Next

  Sep 7, 202631 minS2

  Career Series | Part 7 In this mid-series check-in, Angela and Jaime get vulnerable about their own career transitions and what they’re learning when there is no clear roadmap for what comes next. One year after leaving the corporate world, Jaime reflects on building a coaching business, rediscovering parts of herself outside of work, and realizing that the next chapter may look different than she expected. She opens up about missing collaboration and being part of a team, questioning what she actually wants from work, and redefining ambition so that her career fits into her life instead of her life fitting around her career. Angela shares what the first five months outside of corporate have revealed about identity, purpose and the masks we wear at work. After years of defining herself through “corporate Angela,” she’s reconnecting with a part of herself she thought she had failed at decades ago: storytelling. Together, they explore career change, purpose, identity, ambition, fear and the uncomfortable unknown between one chapter and the next. Because maybe figuring out your next career move isn't always about finding the perfect job or creating the perfect plan. Maybe it starts with asking a different question: Who am I now and what do I actually want my life to feel like?

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  Episode #6

  When Survival Patterns Become Career Strengths: Knowing When to Let Go

  Aug 24, 202627 minS2

  Career Series | Part 6 You’re driven, capable, and the person people can count on. But you feel stressed, burned out, disconnected, or just generally off. In this episode of our Career Series, Jaime and Angela sit down with Lauren Golen, founder and strategic advisor, to explore the survival patterns and identities we carry into our career. From people-pleasing and perfectionism to control, overfunctioning, pushing through, and feeling like everything depends on us. These patterns aren’t necessarily weaknesses. In fact, they may be part of the reason you’ve been so successful. They can make you dependable, ambitious, hardworking, and someone who always gets the job done. But when those same patterns begin driving how you work, lead, and make career decisions, success can start to come at a cost. Lauren shares how to recognize when an old survival identity is still “running the show,” why feeling off or burned out at work may be telling us something deeper, and how we can begin letting go of the versions of ourselves we no longer need. We also explore the role of intuition in our careers: how to reconnect with your body when you’ve spent years pushing through what you feel, how to rebuild trust in yourself, and what it means to move toward your next chapter before you have the entire plan figured out. In this conversation: How survival identities like people-pleasing, control, and “if I don’t do it, it won’t get done” can fuel career success, until they start costing us Why Lauren asks women to thank the identity they’re ready to let go of and how separating who you are from who you learned to be creates space for something new What it means to move from the constant hum of striving, proving, and earning your seat to leading from freedom, trust, and creative expression How to “feel into the vision in the dark” by trusting your intuition and taking the next step in your career even when you can’t see where it will lead If you’ve been successful in your career but lately find yourself feeling burned out, stuck, stressed, or simply like something is off, this conversation is an invitation to look beneath the job itself and ask a different question: What patterns are you still carrying and who could you become if you finally let them go? Connect with Lauren https://www.instagram.com/laurengolen/ https://substack.com/@laurengolen

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  Episode #5

  The Job Changed, But You Didn’t: The Patterns that Follow Us

  Aug 10, 202626 minS2

  Career Series | Part 5 You can change jobs, change companies, earn the promotion, or step into an entirely different chapter, and still find yourself facing the same patterns. In this episode of Unlearning in Progress, Angela and Jaime sit down with executive coach Michelle Scott to explore why career alignment isn’t only about changing what’s happening around us. Sometimes, the most important shift is the one happening within us. Michelle shares her own experience with burnout, first in the corporate world and later as a stay-at-home mom, and the realization that changing her circumstances didn’t change the patterns she carried with her. As she puts it, without doing the inner work, the pushing simply followed her into a new role. Together, they explore what it actually means to feel aligned in your career, why white space and true rest matter, how to recognize the subtle nudges telling you something needs to change, and why solving career dissatisfaction requires looking at both the external realities of work and our internal beliefs, habits, and expectations. In this conversation: * Why changing jobs doesn’t always solve what feels wrong * How our patterns can follow us from one role to the next * What career alignment actually looks and feels like * Why white space is necessary, not indulgent * How to recognize the “nudge” before it becomes a steamroller * The relationship between inner work and practical career strategy * How slowing down can help you hear your own intuition again If you’ve been wondering whether you need a new job, a new career, or simply a different way of showing up in the one you already have, this conversation might help you ask a different question. Connect with Michelle: https://michellescottcoaching.com/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/michelle-scott-coaching/ https://www.facebook.com/michellescottcoaching/ https://www.instagram.com/coachmichellescott/

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  Episode #4

  Beyond the Dream Job: Finding Purpose in Your Next Chapter

  Aug 3, 202621 minS2

  Career Series | Part 4 Over the last few episodes, we've explored career crossroads, the factors that influence career growth, and how to identify work that energizes you. In this episode, we bring those concepts to life through the story of Amy Peterson, co-founder and CEO of Rebel Nell. Amy spent years pursuing a childhood dream of working in professional baseball. After building a successful career with the Detroit Tigers, she found herself wrestling with an internal tug toward something different, one that became increasingly difficult to ignore. Together, we explore what it feels like when your passions evolve, how to distinguish between running away from something and being called toward something new, and why passion is often what sustains us through the hardest parts of building a career or business. Amy shares her experience navigating uncertainty, identity shifts, and the decision to pursue work that felt deeply aligned with what mattered most to her. Whether you're questioning your next move or simply feeling pulled toward something you can't quite explain, this conversation offers a thoughtful framework for understanding what that tug might be trying to tell you. In This Episode, We Discuss: What happens when a long-held career path no longer feels aligned How to evaluate the "internal tug" toward something new The difference between escaping a situation and following a calling Why passion is essential when taking a career risk The reality that passions can evolve throughout different seasons of life Amy's advice for anyone considering a major career shift Learn more about Rebel Nell: Rebel Nell Instagram (@rebelnell)

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  Episode #3

  Beyond Job Titles: Finding What Energizes You

  Jul 27, 202626 minS2

  Career Series | Part 3 You've updated your résumé. Scrolled through job postings. Considered a promotion, a pivot, or even a completely different path. But what if the answer isn't found in a job title at all? In Part 3 of our Career Series, Jaime introduces the Career Alignment Matrix, a practical framework designed to help you identify the work that energizes you, the growth you're excited to pursue, the responsibilities you've outgrown, and the tasks that consistently drain your energy. Through a live coaching conversation, Angela works through the exercise in real time, uncovering patterns that offer new clarity about what she wants from the next chapter of her career. Together, they explore why career decisions become easier when you stop focusing on titles and start paying attention to the environments, activities, and experiences that bring out your best work. If you've ever found yourself wondering, "What's next for me?" this conversation is for you. In this episode: Why career clarity often comes from patterns, not perfectly mapped-out plans How to identify what energizes you and what consistently drains you The difference between growth you choose and growth you feel pressured into pursuing Why being good at something doesn't mean you should keep doing it forever How work environments and team culture influence career alignment A practical framework for designing your next career move with greater intention Whether you're considering a promotion, exploring a career pivot, or simply feeling disconnected from your current work, this episode offers a different way to think about what's next: not by chasing titles, but by finding what energizes you.

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