Trial Tested

S15E5: Righting Wrongs Through the Law with Michael Burrage

Michael Burrage made history as the first Native American federal judge to be appointed in the United States. A member of the Choctaw Nation of Oklahoma, Burrage has spent decades using the law to protect tribal sovereig

S15E4: Beyond the Verdict – Dean Strang on the Human Side of Criminal Defense

Dean Strang's career has been anything but conventional. Best known to many as defense counsel featured in Netflix's Making a Murderer, Dean joins host Vince Citro to discuss the experiences that have shaped his decades-

S15E3: Do Well by Doing Good – A Discussion about Pro Bono with Claire Hunter, K.C., Mark Surprenant and Kimball Anderson

S15E2: High Stakes Advocacy in the Public Eye – a Conversation with John Lauro

Drawing on four decades of experience as a federal prosecutor, criminal defense attorney, and trial lawyer, John Lauro sits down with host Vince Citro to reflect on the qualities that define exceptional advocacy: prepara

S15E1: Why We Click – and Why it Matters in the Courtroom with Author Kate Murphy

Why do we instantly click with some people while feeling disconnected from others? In this episode, journalist, and bestselling author Kate Murphy joins host Amy Gunn to discuss her new book, Why We Click, and explores h

S14E6: Mental Health in the Legal Profession — A Candid Conversation with Former Chief Justice George Strathy

What does it really take to change the culture of a profession? In this episode of Trial Tested, host James Brown sits down with the Honorable George Strathy, former Chief Justice of Ontario, for a deeply personal and wi

S14E5: The Norcross Prosecution with Michael Critchley, Kevin Marino, Henry Klingeman and Lawrence Lustberg

In this episode, host Dave Thomas is joined by four Fellows of the American College of Trial Lawyers: Michael Critchley, Kevin Marino, Henry Klingeman, and Lawrence Lustberg. Together, they unpack the high-profile prosec

S14E4: Clarity in the Courtroom: Simplifying Complex Cases with Fran Wikstrom

Past President of the American College of Trial Lawyers (ACTL) Fran Wikstrom joins host Vince Citro to reflect on a journey shaped as much by loading docks and dishwashing jobs as by his time at Yale Law School. He discu

S14E3: Building Better Lawyers Through Mentorship with Missy Wright, Kimball Anderson and John Siffert

In this episode of Trial Tested, host Amy Gunn welcomes Missy Wright, Kimball Anderson, and John Siffert to explore the importance of mentorship. They discuss how mentoring – rooted in a commitment to civility, professio

S14E2: Elliot Peters on Athletes, Acquittals and Authenticity in the Courtroom

Join host Sandra Barton for a conversation with Elliot Peters about the unconventional path and pivotal cases that shaped his career. Peters recounts leaving New York University School of Law after his first year, then r

S14E1: Defending Presidents and Controversial Clients with Greg Craig

In this episode of Trial Tested, Greg Craig traces his journey from achieving his law degree at Yale Law School – where classmates included Hillary Rodham Clinton and Bill Clinton – to a career defined by landmark trials

Leading With Civility: Presidents’ Day Episode with Rick Deane

The College’s 75th President, Rick Deane, sits down with host Amy Gunn in this special Presidents’ Day episode of Trial Tested. Deane reflects on the encouragement of his grandmother and his early fascination with the la

S13E5: The Science of Lawyer Wellbeing with Dr. Debra Austin

Trial lawyers live in a constant state of problem-solving, competition, and high stakes – exactly the kind of environment that can quietly push the brain into chronic fight-or-flight. In this episode, host Amy Gunn sits

S13E4: Inside the Iran-Contra Affair and Beyond: Six Decades of Trial Advocacy with Jim Brosnahan

Host Vince Citro welcomes San Francisco attorney Jim Brosnahan to discuss a career shaped by formative childhood illness, early reading struggles, and an outsider’s sense of empathy. He describes his path from Boston Col

S13E3: Tough but Fair: Judge William Alsup on the Pursuit of Truth and Justice

Judge William Alsup of the U.S. District Court for the Northern District of California joins host Renée Rothauge to reflect on how his civil rights-era upbringing in Mississippi, his clerkship for U.S. Supreme Court Just

S13E2: Protecting Children, Driving Reform and Providing Justice: An Interview with Bart Dalton

In this episode, Dave Thomas interviews Bart Dalton, former Delaware Chief Deputy Attorney General and 67th President of the American College of Trial Lawyers. Dalton reflects on his early career as a prosecutor, emphasi

S13E1: Inside the Stamler v. Willis Challenge to HUAC with Chet Kamin

Chicago attorney Chet Kamin joins host Amy Gunn to discuss his role in the landmark Stamler v. Willis litigation, which helped bring about the end of the House Un-American Activities Committee. Arguing that Dr. Jeremiah

S12E6: Benjamin Chew on High-Profile Trials, Media Scrutiny, and Building Trial Experience

Host Vince Citro welcomes Benjamin Chew, an acclaimed trial lawyer perhaps best known for representing Johnny Depp in the highly publicized defamation trial against Amber Heard. In this in-depth interview, Chew discusses

S12E5: Bill Barton – The Lawyer Who Took on the Boy Scouts and Brought Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes to Life

* Please be advised that this episode discusses sensitive topics, including sexual abuse, and is intended for a mature audience. Bill Barton joins host Renee Rothauge for a candid and compelling conversation about the ex

S12E4: A Conversation with Canadian Supreme Court Justice Mahmud Jamal

Justice Mahmud Jamal of the Supreme Court of Canada joins host Sandra Barton to share his journey from immigrant roots to Canada’s highest court. He offers a behind-the-scenes look at the collaborative and often philosop