
The Trial Lawyers College Podcast
Beyond the Number with Andrew Mishlove and Bell Island
Trial Lawyers College graduates Andrew Mishlove and Bell Island join Maren Chaloupka to explore one of the toughest challenges in trial advocacy: turning complicated forensic science into a story jurors can understand and care about. From contaminated blood samples and unreliable measurements to the rules that give scientific testing meaning, Andrew and Bell explain why simply proving the science is not enough and how the TLC method helps lawyers connect technical evidence to larger themes of trust, fairness, and integrity. Drawing on decades of courtroom experience, they share how storytelling, role reversal, and a willingness to keep learning have transformed the way they challenge government evidence and advocate for their clients.






