We all have a list of things we’ve been meaning to do, changes we’ve been wanting to make, and versions of ourselves we’ve been waiting to become. We tell ourselves the time isn't right—but if not now, then when? Stop waiting for "someday." Start finding your "Then When." Then When is a podcast dedicated to the pivotal moments that change everything. This show explores the bridge between being stuck and taking the leap.
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Signup to Generate a PitchWe all have a list of things we’ve been meaning to do, changes we’ve been wanting to make, and versions of ourselves we’ve been waiting to become. We tell ourselves the time isn't right, but if not now, then when?
Recent episodes include "E25 - Then When? Progress Report!" (30 September 2026, 43 minutes), "E24 - Then When? To Check In" (23 September 2026, 46 minutes), and "E22 - Then When? How To When Your When" (26 August 2026, 46 minutes).
Then When publishes roughly every two weeks, with episodes averaging 48 minutes across 27 episodes.
Booking probability for Then When is 31%, and the host is rated Selective on guests. Then When requires a Pod Score of 80 or higher. Then When's contact route on record: verified email.
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Then When is an education podcast with 27 episodes published.
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Episode #25
Progress Report: Sound Baths, Books & Big Moves ✨ Fall is here, leaves are falling, and Serina and Mary are in their era of doing the thing . This week's episode is a proper progress report — two people checking in on...
Episode #24
Then When to Check In ✨ Weird Al. Puddles Pity Party. A paper plate of shells with exactly one piece successfully glued together. A sound healing session that gave Serina a receipt from the universe saying you're on the...
Then When
Getting Unstuck: How to Start, Keep Going & Actually Finish the Thing ✨ We're gonna be real with you: sometimes life be lifing so hard that the podcast itself becomes a living example of the very thing you're trying to...
Episode #21
Build It & They Will Come: A Conversation with Writer & Producer Daina Smith ✨ What if the story you thought was "out of your wheelhouse" turned out to be the one that changed everything? This week Serina and Mary are...
Episode #19
Building Your Best Life (Within the One You Already Have) Days become months. Months become years. And then one day you blink and think - wait, when did I stop steering this thing? This week Serina and Mary get into the...
Episode #18
Let's Get Inclusive with Nick Lucatino This week, Serina and Mary welcome a very special guest into the Then When chaos: Nick Lucatino , founder of Inclusive Pathways Project and Mary's friend-turned-collaborator since...
Episode #17
Venture Out! 🌟✨ We're back, we missed you, and we have stories . After a little time apart — some solo adventures, some found time, some plates spinning, some "life be lifing" — Serina and Mary are back in the pod and...
Episode #16
<p><b>Then When to Get Vulnerable: Tennette's Story 🌟🎤</b></p><p>What if the moment that changed everything started with a stranger on a park bench?</p><p>This week, Serina and Mary welcome a very special guest...
Episode #15
<p><b>Find Your Voice (And Actually Use It) 🎤✨</b></p><p>Seventy-five percent of people worldwide are afraid of public speaking. SEVENTY-FIVE. Which means chances are good that you, reading this right now, have felt...
Episode #14
<p>You know that thing you've been putting off since basically forever? Not because you can't do it — but because you told yourself a story about why you shouldn't, can't, or won't? Yeah. This one's for you.</p><p>This...
Episode #14
<p>You know that thing you've been putting off since basically forever? Not because you can't do it — but because you told yourself a story about why you shouldn't, can't, or won't? Yeah. This one's for you.</p><p>This...
Episode #13
<p><b>Hold Your Ground (And Maybe Pull Some Weeds While You're At It) 🌿🔥</b></p><p></p><p>You know that feeling when someone crosses a line and your eyes start boiling? Yeah. We've been there. This week Serina and...
Episode #12
<p>What happens when three ladies, a Lego set, and a two-year plan to play hockey all end up in the same recording session? This episode. 🏒</p><p></p><p>We welcomed the one and only <b>Lisa Oestreicher</b> to the...
Episode #11
<p><b>Then When Will You Love Yourself? 💛</b></p><p></p><p>Spoiler: the answer is now. In this episode, Serina and Mary drop in — warm, a little nerdy, and genuinely funny as they dig into what self-love actually looks...
Episode #10
<p>Ever notice how a single moment — a stranger's smile, an unexpected compliment, someone just showing up — can shift your whole day? ✨ That's what this episode is about.</p><p>Serina and Mary get into the magic hiding...
Episode #9
<p>Today on Then When, we had the absolute pleasure of sitting down with the remarkable Sara Wasley ✨ — a wonderfully curious soul who doesn't just dream; she does. 🙌</p><p>Sara has a rare and radiant quality: she...
Episode #8
<p><b>Seize the Day with Scuba Steve!</b></p><p></p><p>What does it take to chase your deepest passion when life keeps throwing curveballs? 🎯 This week, we're diving in, literally, with the incredible <b>Steve...
Episode #7
<p>Welcome back, friends! 🎙️ This week, <b>Serina</b> and <b>Mary</b> are getting serious about those "I'll do it when everything is perfect" moments — and why life is way too interesting to wait. Mary's actually been...
Episode #6
<p>Serina and Mary finally get to hang out again IRL! A dance retreat has brought your hosts together to explore whole-body movement, taking up space, side-quest spontaneity, and testing out if Connecticut truly is the...
Episode #5
<p>Feeling like your brain has too many tabs open and the world is turned up to "extra loud"? We’ve all been there!</p><p></p><p>Join <b>Serina</b> and <b>Mary</b> as they dive into the magic of hitting the pause...
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