Safety Heroes Podcast With Mousa Yassin

The Health, Safety, and Enviroment space is made of everyday people who are real-life heroes, committed to creating a safe environment and engaging safety culture within their companies. Their priority is to ensure each and everyone of their employees gets to return home after a day’s work unharmed, and that both wellbeing and the planet are a core consideration: they are unsung heroes. In fact, you never hear about them when they do their jobs right! We want to celebrate these everyday people and inspire others in that space to look at things differently, improve their safety management plans and overall learn as a collective; making “HSE” a cornerstone of every company’s culture. So let’s celebrate those leaders from the Health, Safety, and Environment space who stand on the frontline and the emotional/human implications of working in the safety space.

Safety Heroes Podcast With Mousa Yassin is a business podcast hosted by Mousa Yassin, with 60 episodes on record and a Required Pod Score of 80. PitchCentric scores this show on Booking Probability, Listen Score, and live audience signals refreshed every 24 hours.

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  Episode #61

  #61 - Todd Conklin - Why the Best Safety Systems Assume Failure

  Sep 3, 202645 minS2

  Todd Conklin doesn't think safety is about preventing failure. He thinks it's about being ready to recover from it. Todd — 30 years at Los Alamos National Laboratory as a senior advisor for organisational and safety culture, author of 14 books including The 5 Principles of Human Performance, host of Pre-Accident Investigation: The Podcast for over 12 years, and widely considered the godfather of HOP — joins Mousa to unpack why the best safety systems assume failure everywhere, and what database administrators, hospital researchers, and London bus drivers have quietly been teaching the safety industry for years. The conversation centres on Kathleen Sutcliffe's research on patient deaths in hospitals: people don't die because of exposure to risk, they die because of a failure to rescue. From there, Todd walks through the reframes that follow — life-saving "rules" should be life-saving "controls," because one word puts the weight on the worker and the other puts it back on the system. "Stop work" should be "start when you're ready," because if you're counting on a worker to stop a job before it kills them, every other control already failed. And "speak up" programs are half-built without "listen up" — the question isn't whether workers are telling you the truth, it's whether you've built anything that lets you listen. In this episode: Why the best safety systems are designed to assume failure, not prevent it Kathleen Sutcliffe's "failure to rescue" research, and what it means for how you measure risk Life-saving "rules" vs. life-saving "controls" — and why the word choice matters Why "stop work" is broken, and what "start when you're ready" replaces it with How blame — including self-blame — quietly kills organisational learning The London bus strike, "work to rule," and why you want thinking compliance, not rote compliance It's not about the speak. It's about the up. ⏱️ Chapters 00:00 Introduction — the godfather of HOP 02:05 12 years of podcasting, and why human performance is "what's next" 06:24 Los Alamos: keeping the margin between disaster and normal as wide as possible 10:30 What database administrators taught Todd about systems thinking 15:11 Chaos monkeys — and the engineer who beta-tests by sitting on his keyboard 21:31 Why aren't they called eight life-saving controls? 22:44 Kathleen Sutcliffe and "failure to rescue" 27:13 Why "stop work" doesn't work 28:23 Start when you're ready, not stop before you fail 31:02 How blame stops organisations from learning 36:53 A well-designed system is invisible 39:34 The London bus strike: what "work to rule" tells us about real work 45:19 Closing — it's not about the speak. It's about the up. Connect Todd Conklin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/todd-conklin-64b8a8a/ Podcast: Pre-Accident Investigation: The Podcast · Books: The 5 Principles of Human Performance and 13 others — search "Todd Conklin" on Amazon Host: Mousa Yassin — linkedin.com/in/mousayassin Pixaera: pixaera.com Safety Heroes is the Health, Safety & Environment podcast by Pixaera. New episodes every other week. Send us a message! If you like this podcast episode, subscribe here and follow us on LinkedIn for the latest from our HSE community and guests. Connect with our CEO and host, Mousa , today to stay updated on Safety Heroes, Pixaera, and more. Do you want to be a guest on Safety Heroes, or know someone who would be a great fit? We’d love to hear from you. Send us a message on LinkedIn or email podcast@pixaera.com .

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  Episode #60

  #60 - Amy Edmondson - Better Teams Made More Mistakes. Here's Why.

  Aug 18, 202645 minS2

  A young PhD student ran the numbers and found that the best-performing hospital teams had the highest error rates. That result made no sense — until she realized better teams don't make more mistakes. They report more of them. Amy Edmondson, Novartis Professor of Leadership and Management at Harvard Business School and the researcher who coined "psychological safety," joins Mousa to trace that discovery back to its origin — and to break down why most people still misunderstand what psychological safety actually requires. ━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━ ⏱️ TIMESTAMPS 00:19 — Introduction 00:25 — The role of compassion, trust, and heart in her work 04:02 — Defining psychological safety: the belief that speaking up is safe 05:45 — Hearing Buckminster Fuller speak at MIT — and writing him a letter 07:12 — Becoming Fuller's "chief engineer" at 1980 09:35 — Working alongside Peter Senge, Chris Argyris, and Edgar Schein 12:52 — The hospital study that started it all: do better teams make fewer errors? 14:34 — The counterintuitive finding: better teams reported more errors, not fewer 22:10 — Two broken failure cultures: "failure is not an option" vs. "fail fast, fail often" 22:59 — The three kinds of failure: basic, complex, and intelligent 27:52 — How leaders should respond differently to each kind of failure 31:06 — Todd Conklin's insight on blame: "it isolates the learning" 34:36 — What people get wrong about psychological safety — it's not about being nice 38:52 — The three faulty mental models that undermine safety: perfectionism, invulnerability, and individualism 44:53 — Her closing advice: pause, breathe, and choose curiosity ━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━ EPISODE SUMMARY Amy Edmondson didn't set out to study psychological safety — she stumbled into it as a second-year PhD student trying to answer a simple question about hospital teams and medication errors. In this conversation she walks through that discovery from the inside, explains why the concept is so often misapplied as "being nice" rather than holding high standards alongside real candor, and lays out the three kinds of failure from her book Right Kind of Wrong — only one of which organizations should actually be trying to increase. It's a rare chance to hear the origin story of one of the most influential ideas in modern leadership, told by the person who found it. ️ KEY TOPICS DISCUSSED → The origin of the term "psychological safety" → Why better-performing teams report more errors, not fewer → Basic, complex, and intelligent failure — and how to respond to each → What people get wrong about psychological safety → The mental models that undermine safety: perfectionism, invulnerability, individualism → Choosing curiosity over certainty as a leadership practice ━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━ CONNECT Guest: https://www.linkedin.com/in/amycedmondson/ Host: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mousayassin/ Pixaera: https://www.pixaera.com Safety Heroes: https://www.linkedin.com/company/safety-heroes/ ━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━ Send us a message! If you like this podcast episode, subscribe here and follow us on LinkedIn for the latest from our HSE community and guests. Connect with our CEO and host, Mousa , today to stay updated on Safety Heroes, Pixaera, and more. Do you want to be a guest on Safety Heroes, or know someone who would be a great fit? We’d love to hear from you. Send us a message on LinkedIn or email podcast@pixaera.com .

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  Episode #59

  #59 - Angelo Spingardi - Safety Has No Finish Line: 17 Years Running Safety at Saipem

  Jul 16, 202637 minS2

  Angelo Spingardi runs HSEQ — health, safety, environment and quality — across Saipem's 118 operational sites worldwide, from offshore platforms to construction sites across the energy transition. He's been inside the company for 17 years, starting as an environmental engineer before being embedded into Saipem's safety functions. In this episode he shared the personal loss that shaped his career, the leadership question that reframes how you investigate every accident, and the story behind Fail Safe — the film Saipem built to make human performance principles real on the ground. We also get into why vulnerability — not authority — is what actually gets people to admit their mistakes, why "safety is a consequence, not a target," and how Angelo has gone 17 years without ever having to argue for a safety budget. Timestamps 00:00 — Cold open: why empathy is the foundation of safety leadership 01:47 — Trust, empathy, communication: anchoring 17 years in HSEQ 03:09 — From environmental engineer to Group Director HSEQ — the accidental path into safety 04:25 — The personal loss that made safety personal: losing a friend at work 06:25 — Earning trust vs. imposing procedure: how to get a room to actually listen 09:55 — "Safety is a race without a finish line" — his CEO's metaphor 10:29 — Do leaders really see safety as an investment, or still as a cost center? 12:45 — The reframe: safety is a consequence, not a target 14:35 — 17 years, zero arguments about a safety budget 18:15 — The leadership accountability reframe: step back a week, a month, a year 20:39 — Inside "Fail Safe": how Saipem's near-miss reconstruction film was born 22:44 — Benchmarking against civil aviation and air traffic control 24:03 — Why storytelling and film beat slides and procedures 25:53 — What "Fail Safe" really means: humans err, systems must catch it 26:46 — Vulnerability as a leadership skill: "I screwed up" 29:11 — The "macho man" problem in construction, and why psychological safety is hard-won 30:02 — Playing the film for 55 distracted people — and watching the room go silent 31:24 — What makes a human-performance program actually work, beyond the video 34:05 — Staying grounded: how Angelo avoids burnout after 17 years running safety 36:00 — Close Angelo Spingardi is Group Director HSEQ at Saipem, architect of the company's 2024–27 Safety Strategic Plan. In 2024, Saipem's TRIFR came in at 0.34 against a 0.41 target. Send us a message! If you like this podcast episode, subscribe here and follow us on LinkedIn for the latest from our HSE community and guests. Connect with our CEO and host, Mousa , today to stay updated on Safety Heroes, Pixaera, and more. Do you want to be a guest on Safety Heroes, or know someone who would be a great fit? We’d love to hear from you. Send us a message on LinkedIn or email podcast@pixaera.com .

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  Episode #58

  #58 - Kathy Seabrook - Put Safety on the P&L: How to Sell the Business Case for Safety to the C-Suite

  Jun 18, 202647 minS2

  Kathy Seabrook — Founder & CEO of Global Solutions Inc. and a standards architect on ISO 45001 and ANSI Z10 — joins Mousa to make the case that safety has always been the people side of sustainability. She walks through "impact valuation": putting the value workers create onto the P&L using data finance already understands. It's a conversation about money that keeps coming back to people as a great business decision. In this episode: • Why the harm-reduction argument has run its course • "Impact valuation" — pricing the value people create, not the cost of harm • Discretionary energy and the cost of re-hiring: making safety measurable • Why "what gets measured gets managed" keeps teams stuck • The one question to ask when you hit the boardroom wall ⏱️ Chapters 00:00 Introduction 01:53 Heart, compassion and trust at the core of safety 06:17 The chemistry class that changed her career 09:42 "I just said yes" — ASSP, ISO standards, a career of saying yes 19:48 What impact valuation actually means 24:12 Discretionary energy: the 150% worker efficiency 26:16 Putting retention on the P&L (the $6,000 hire) 29:32 An ergonomics business case a CFO can follow 37:25 Why safety teams stay stuck 42:49 The one question for a stuck safety leader 47:01 Why safety is already inside human-capital metrics 🔗 Connect with Kathy Seabrook on linkedin · Book: Connecting the Dots: Environment, Health, Safety, and Sustainability (Wiley, 2024) Connect with the Host Mousa Yassin on Linkedin Pixaera: pixaera.com Safety Heroes is the Health, Safety & Environment podcast by Pixaera. New episodes weekly. Send us a message! If you like this podcast episode, subscribe here and follow us on LinkedIn for the latest from our HSE community and guests. Connect with our CEO and host, Mousa , today to stay updated on Safety Heroes, Pixaera, and more. Do you want to be a guest on Safety Heroes, or know someone who would be a great fit? We’d love to hear from you. Send us a message on LinkedIn or email podcast@pixaera.com .

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  Episode #57

  #57 - Dan Hobbs - Guardian Angel, Not Big Brother: How Dan Hobbs Is Rewiring Safety with AI Vision

  May 21, 202635 minS2

  Dan Hobbs did not set out to build a safety company. He and his co-founder Ciarán O’Mara started with a question: why do so many workplace fatalities get called freak accidents, when the CCTV footage usually shows the same behaviour patterns happening every day on the same site? Four years later, Protex AI plugs into existing CCTV infrastructure at Fortune 500 sites in 36 countries to surface unsafe behaviours before they become incidents. Computer vision. Privacy-preserving. Not a dashboard, a diagnosis. In this conversation, Mousa and Dan go deeper than the product. They work through the three mental shifts that decide whether an AI-in-safety deployment actually changes anything: surveillance to systems, reactive to proactive, and procurement to partnership . Dan tells the story of walking on stage in front of 300 union members expecting resistance — and the single sentence, from a senior union official, that changed the room. He talks candidly about the scar tissue from building an enterprise AI company: 92 flights in a year, legal councils that feel like Star Trek, and the co-founder dynamic that keeps him from flying too close to the sun. For HSE directors, VPs of safety, and operations leaders trying to figure out what to do with AI before their executive team asks them again. CHAPTERS 00:00 Cold open — Guardian Angel, not big brother 00:35 Who Dan is, what Protex AI does, where they operate 03:00 The founding story — the fatality that wasn’t a freak accident 06:00 The privacy reframe — see the forest, not the trees 08:00 The union stage and the Guardian Angel moment 09:45 ICP, deployment model, and what the first 60 days look like 13:00 Kentucky: the first site Dan saw someone nearly die 18:30 Build the plane as you’re flying — enterprise AI adoption 21:30 Protex Intelligence and the shift from dashboards to questions 25:00 Speed of AI versus speed of enterprise 28:30 What it is like scaling into the US as an Irish founder 32:00 How Dan is doing — 92 flights, yin-yang co-founding, and what lonely at the top actually means 34:30 What if everything goes right? Dan Hobbs on LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/dan-hobbs-258998ab/ His company website: protex.ai Send us a message! If you like this podcast episode, subscribe here and follow us on LinkedIn for the latest from our HSE community and guests. Connect with our CEO and host, Mousa , today to stay updated on Safety Heroes, Pixaera, and more. Do you want to be a guest on Safety Heroes, or know someone who would be a great fit? We’d love to hear from you. Send us a message on LinkedIn or email podcast@pixaera.com .

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