Oct 28, 202628 min
Akilou Salissou—a Customer Success Manager with a rich international background spanning Niger, Burkina Faso, Tunisia, and France—joins host Rebecca Dhrimaj for an inspiring conversation on empathy, human-centered...
About this Podcast:
Return on Empathy (ROE), hosted by Rebecca Dhrimaj, is a leadership podcast for changemakers across all roles and industries—from the front lines to the C-suite—that confronts the critical blind spot of traditional performance metrics (ROI), which fail to measure how work is truly experienced and what it costs the people doing it. When leaders lack visibility into the emotional impact of decisions, critical warning signs—like unspoken risks and employee silence—go underground until something breaks. Featuring candid conversations with leaders across industries, ROE explores leading with empathy as a form of intelligence to detect risk earlier, make better decisions, and build organizations that endure by energizing, rather than depleting, their people. Note: This series is an evolution of our original podcast, E3: Engage and Empower with Empathy, representing a deeper focus on the measurable impact of empathy as decision intelligence. *The ROE podcast is dedicated to the late Bob Chapman, former CEO and Chairman of Barry-Wehmiller and co-author of Everybody Matters: The Extraordinary Power of Caring for Your People Like Family.*
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What is Return on Empathy (ROE) about?
Return on Empathy (ROE), hosted by Rebecca Dhrimaj, is a leadership podcast for changemakers across all roles and industries, from the front lines to the C-suite, that confronts the critical blind spot of traditional performance metrics (ROI), which fail to measure how work is truly experienced and what it costs the people doing it.
What has Return on Empathy (ROE) covered recently?
Recent episodes include "Culture is Customer Experience with Akilou Salissou" (28 October 2026, 28 minutes), "The Cost of Silence in Healthcare: Moral Injury, Empathy, and Healing with Gwendolyn Williams, MD" (14 October 2026, 55 minutes), and "The 15% Edge: Operationalizing Truly Human Leadership with Steve Gund" (7 October 2026, 49 minutes).
How often does Return on Empathy (ROE) publish?
Return on Empathy (ROE) publishes roughly weekly, with episodes averaging 46 minutes.
How hard is it to get booked on Return on Empathy (ROE)?
Booking probability for Return on Empathy (ROE) is 43%, and the host is rated Selective on guests. Return on Empathy (ROE) requires a Pod Score of 82 or higher. Return on Empathy (ROE)'s contact route on record: verified email.
Who should pitch Return on Empathy (ROE)?
The strongest fits for Return on Empathy (ROE) are Business & Management Consulting. Return on Empathy (ROE) has a business audience.
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Recent episodes
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Episode #119
The Cost of Silence in Healthcare: Moral Injury, Empathy, and Healing with Gwendolyn Williams, MD
Oct 14, 202655 minDr. Gwendolyn Williams—a hospital medicine physician and healthcare leader—joins host Rebecca Dhrimaj for a deeply moving conversation on the systemic realities of healthcare, moral injury, and human-centered...
Oct 7, 202649 minIn this episode, Steve Gund — CEO of The Gund Company and a fourth-generation business leader—shares how a transformative awakening from the late Bob Chapman (former Chairman and CEO of Barry-Wehmiller) redefined his...
Sep 30, 202644 minIn this episode, Dr. Monica Worline—faculty director at the Center for Positive Organizations at the University of Michigan Ross School of Business, research scientist, and co-author of Awakening Compassion at Work...
Sep 23, 202657 minIn this episode, Dr. Mette Miriam Böll —biologist, researcher at MIT, and co-founder of the Center for Systems Awareness—explores how we move beyond linear thinking into true systems awareness. Mette shares her...
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Sep 16, 202636 minIn this inspiring episode, Rebecca sits down with HR leader Donna Long for a deeply candid discussion on the power of empathetic leadership, the myth that empathy creates weakness, and the far-reaching "ripple effects"...
Sep 9, 202650 minIn this episode, host Rebecca Dhrimaj sits down with Pat Geary, President of Story Construction, to discuss how a purpose-driven mindset can completely transform company culture and frontline employee retention...
Sep 2, 202652 minWhat if the secret to building high-performing, psychologically safe teams was as simple as helping leaders "suck less"? In this episode, host Rebecca Dhrimaj sits down with Stephen "Shed" Shedletzky, author of Speak Up...
Aug 26, 202645 minWhat if the secret to revolutionary leadership in a transactional, high-pressure industry was as simple as radical empathy? In this episode, host Rebecca Dhrimaj sits down with Michele Wilson, a leader disrupting the...
Episode #111
Ambition Without Burnout with Polly Angel, Dr. Paula Freedman-Diamond, and Carlos Martinez
Aug 19, 202656 minIs your drive to achieve actually driving you toward burnout? In this special panel episode of the podcast, host Rebecca Dhrimaj sits down with Gallup-certified CliftonStrengths coach Carlos Martinez, RTT therapist...
Aug 12, 202651 minWhat does a childhood spent sewing Vogue patterns at the Grand Canyon have to do with mastering the delicate art of surgery? In this inspiring episode, host Rebecca Dhrimaj sits down with former surgeon, author, and...
Episode #109
Why She Said YES to Every Opportunity (And How It Built Her Career) with Dr. Esther Alegria
Aug 5, 202651 minWhat do you do when a senior executive gives you feedback that hits you straight in the heart? In this inspiring episode of Return on Empathy , host Rebecca Dhrimaj sits down with Dr. Esther M. Alegria—former VP of...
Jul 29, 202658 minCan an organization remain highly profitable while treating its people with radical love and compassion? In this deeply emotional episode of Return on Empathy , we carry forward the legacy of the late Bob Chapman with...
Jul 15, 202651 minEver felt like you’re "marionetting" your team or constantly fighting fires that aren't yours to extinguish? You are definitely not alone. In this episode, host Rebecca Dhrimaj sits down with Jeff Sigel—executive coach...
Episode #105
Empathy is the Oxygen with Frank T. Ziede
Jul 8, 202647 minWhat if the secret to holding people accountable at work had absolutely nothing to do with authority? Longtime corporate facilitator Frank Ziede firmly believes that "preparation equals respect" and that true empathy...
Episode #104
Leading With Curiosity with Maggie Brady
Jul 1, 202633 minCan practicing deep empathy actually make your organization more agile during a massive restructuring? Return on Empathy host Rebecca Dhrimaj sits down with Maggie Brady, VP of HR and Talent at White Cap. Drawing from...
Jun 24, 202650 minIn this episode of Return on Empathy, host Rebecca Dhrimaj sits down with biopharma industry executives Warren Stone (NeoGenomics), Dr. Lisa Sellers (formerly Vector Laboratories), Denise Mueller (formerly Affimed), and...
Jun 17, 202641 minAssociate Professor at Maastricht University’s School of Business and Economics, Therese Grohnert, shares the complexities of teaching change management to graduate students and the importance of empathy in leadership...
Jun 10, 202644 minTom Szczesny, Ed.D. shares his journey from aspiring sports broadcaster to school principal, emphasizing the importance of systems thinking and empathy in leadership. He discusses the complexities of educational...
Episode #100
Flip the Mic: A Father-Daughter Empathy Conversation with Rebecca Dhrimaj and Dave Galloway
Jun 3, 202632 minEmpathy is about seeing the unseen, it's a journey into connection. In a world that often feels divided, how do we bridge the gap between "us" and "them"? In this episode, Return on Empathy host hands the mic over to...
Recent guests
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Jane Dutton
Robert L. Kahn Distinguished University Professor Emerita, University of Michigan's Ross School of Business
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Stephen Shedletzky
leadership speaker, coach and author of Speak-Up Culture: When Leaders Truly Listen, People Step Up, Shed Inspires
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Carlos Martinez
founder of one of Puerto Rico's largest dental practices, CAM Physical Therapy and Wellness Services
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Maggie Brady
Author of "Empty Rooms", White Cap
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