Oct 28, 202635 min
Pathological demand avoidance (PDA) has become one of the most talked about frameworks in autism parenting, and it is often presented as the opposite of ABA therapy. This episode takes a second look at that assumption...
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Refrigerator Moms
Hosted by Kelley Jensen, Julianna Scott · kids · EN-US
About this Podcast:
Born from 20 years of friendship, during which they navigated the trenches of autism parenting and advocacy, the Refrigerator Moms is Kelley Jensen and Julianna Scott’s way of reaching out to parents waging the same battles they were. Their purpose with this podcast is to clear the fog, silence the noise, and find a path through neurodivergence for parents that are stuck between bad choices. They tackle parenting topics such as mom guilt, tantrums, pathological demand avoidance, siblings, medication, comorbidities, social media, and much more.
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What is Refrigerator Moms about?
Born from 20 years of friendship, during which they navigated the trenches of autism parenting and advocacy, the Refrigerator Moms is Kelley Jensen and Julianna Scott’s way of reaching out to parents waging the same battles they were.
Who hosts Refrigerator Moms?
Refrigerator Moms is hosted by Kelley Jensen, Julianna Scott. The show has published 70 episodes to date.
What has Refrigerator Moms covered recently?
Recent episodes include "Does PDA Parenting Actually Work Against ABA Therapy?" (28 October 2026, 35 minutes), "Inside the Making of "An Open Door" with John Festervand" (21 October 2026, 42 minutes), and "Temple Grandin: Why High Expectations Beat Overprotection in Autism Parenting" (14 October 2026, 59 minutes).
How often does Refrigerator Moms publish?
Refrigerator Moms publishes roughly weekly, with episodes averaging 37 minutes across 70 episodes.
How hard is it to get booked on Refrigerator Moms?
Booking probability for Refrigerator Moms is 33%, and the host is rated Selective on guests. Refrigerator Moms requires a Pod Score of 80 or higher. Refrigerator Moms's contact route on record: verified email.
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The strongest fits for Refrigerator Moms are Family & Social Services. Refrigerator Moms has a kids audience.
About the host
Kelley Jensen, Julianna Scott hosts Refrigerator Moms, a kids podcast with 70 episodes published.
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Recent episodes
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Oct 21, 202642 minThis episode of Refridgerator Moms goes behind the scenes of An Open Door: Temple Grandin, the documentary that picked up where the HBO film left off. John Festervand, executive producer of the film and longtime...
Oct 14, 202659 minDr. Temple Grandin joins Julianna Scott and Kelley Jensen to talk about the refrigerator mother theory this show is named for, and what her own mother's book actually says about it. Temple, a distinguished professor of...
Oct 7, 202631 minPuberty is hard enough without autism in the mix, and almost nobody talks about it honestly. Julianna and Kelley tackle the cringy, necessary conversations that come with an autistic teen's changing body, from hygiene...
Sep 30, 202626 minJulianna Scott and Kelley Jensen dig back into the world of autism parenting social media, starting with a viral thread about a mom whose son melted down over Pokémon cards and the flood of PDA-affirming advice she...
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Sep 23, 202628 minNearly a third of American adults have self diagnosed a mental health condition, and half of Gen Z has done the same, so Julianna Scott and Kelley Jensen dig into what that means for autism specifically. TikTok...
Sep 9, 202639 minJulianna Scott and Kelley Jensen launch the Not About Autism Book Club, with their first pick, Carol Clare Burke's viral bestseller Yesteryear. The novel follows a trad wife influencer who wakes up living in 1855, and...
Sep 2, 202638 minJulianna Scott and Kelley Jensen revisit three of the show's most-discussed refrigerator papers in one sitting: screen time, pathological demand avoidance (PDA), and college readiness. They break down why not all screen...
Aug 26, 202643 minTony Mantor is a Nashville music producer and songwriter, not a clinician, not an autism parent, yet he built one of the most listened-to autism and mental health podcasts around, "Why Not Me." What started as a...
Aug 12, 202630 minJulianna Scott and Kelley Jensen return for another social media questions episode, tackling the topics parents are actually asking about online. They dig into swearing as an expression of frustration, whether a...
Jul 29, 202616 minKelley Jensen and Julianna Scott launch a new segment called Not About Autism, built on a simple idea: parents managing complex mental health challenges need real breaks, not more algorithm-fed autism content. To kick...
Jul 22, 202648 minTash Dillmon, co-host of Moms Talk Autism, joins the show to talk about KultureCity, the nonprofit making stadiums, airports, bars, and churches sensory inclusive nationwide, and what that access actually looks like in...
Jul 15, 202635 minGetting into college is not the same as being ready for it, and for autistic students, that gap can lead to a painful call home. Dr. Marci Schwartz, founder of Thrive College Counseling, joins Julianna and Kelley to...
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<p>Getting into college is not the same as being ready for it, and for autistic students, that gap can lead to a painful call home. Dr. Marci Schwartz, founder of Thrive College Counseling, joins Julianna and Kelley to...
Jul 8, 202611 minS0<p>RFK Jr. and HHS have launched a deprescribing campaign, and the Refrigerator Moms have thoughts. Julianna and Kelley agree that psychiatric medication, especially for kids and teens, is often over prescribed. But...
Jul 1, 202636 minNearly one in three autistic people are profoundly autistic: they need round-the-clock care, often cannot speak for themselves, and are rarely part of the public conversation about autism. Julianna Scott and Kelley...
- Jul 1, 202636 minS0
<p>Nearly one in three autistic people are profoundly autistic: they need round-the-clock care, often cannot speak for themselves, and are rarely part of the public conversation about autism. Julianna Scott and Kelley...
Jun 24, 202645 minS0<p>Brittney Crabtree is raising four kids whose needs land at opposite ends of the autism spectrum, and she joins Julianna and Kelley for an honest conversation most autism content skips. Her 19-year-old son is...
- Jun 24, 202645 min
Brittney Crabtree is raising four kids whose needs land at opposite ends of the autism spectrum, and she joins Julianna and Kelley for an honest conversation most autism content skips. Her 19-year-old son is profoundly...
Jun 17, 202656 minS0<p>Kelley Jensen and Julianna Scott turn the mic over to the other side of the partnership, welcoming their husbands, Eric and Steve, for a candid conversation about what it actually means to be the autism dad. Drawing...
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