
Episode #165
Counting Is Hard
<p>Refactored #165: “Counting Is Hard”</p> <p>Notes coming soon…</p> <p>Don’t be shy! Reach out at feedback@refactored.work.</p> <p>Visit https://refactored.work/ for the full archive, show notes, and more. Hosted by...


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Hosted by Chris Tonkinson, Frank Koehl · technology · EN-US
A casual, ongoing conversation between two technology leaders with Chris Tonkinson and Frank Koehl.
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Signup to Generate a PitchRefactored is hosted by Chris Tonkinson, Frank Koehl. The show has published 164 episodes to date.
Recent episodes include "Counting Is Hard" (25 April 2025, 65 minutes), "Vibe Check: Messrs. Dunning and Kruger Would Like a Word" (25 April 2025, 64 minutes), and "It's Always Permissions (Or DNS)" (18 April 2025, 68 minutes).
Refactored publishes roughly weekly, with episodes averaging 62 minutes across 164 episodes.
Booking probability for Refactored is 35%, and the host is rated Selective on guests. Refactored requires a Pod Score of 80 or higher. Refactored's contact route on record: verified email.
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Chris Tonkinson, Frank Koehl hosts Refactored, a technology podcast with 164 episodes published.
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Episode #165
<p>Refactored #165: “Counting Is Hard”</p> <p>Notes coming soon…</p> <p>Don’t be shy! Reach out at feedback@refactored.work.</p> <p>Visit https://refactored.work/ for the full archive, show notes, and more. Hosted by...

<p>Refactored #164: “Vibe Check: Messrs. Dunning and Kruger Would Like a Word”</p> <p>Notes coming soon…</p> <p>Don’t be shy! Reach out at feedback@refactored.work.</p> <p>Visit https://refactored.work/ for the full...

Episode #163
<p>Refactored #163: “It’s Always Permissions (or DNS)”</p> <p>Notes coming soon…</p> <p>Don’t be shy! Reach out at feedback@refactored.work.</p> <p>Visit https://refactored.work/ for the full archive, show notes, and...

Episode #161
<p>Refactored #161: “Web3: Basically just DocuSign?”</p> <p>Notes coming soon…</p> <p>Don’t be shy! Reach out at feedback@refactored.work.</p> <p>Visit https://refactored.work/ for the full archive, show notes, and...

Episode #160
<p>Refactored #160: “The Great DeepSeek Bake-Off”</p> <p>Notes coming soon…</p> <p>Don’t be shy! Reach out at feedback@refactored.work.</p> <p>Visit https://refactored.work/ for the full archive, show notes, and more...

Episode #159
<p>Refactored #159: “Duck, Duck, Debug!”</p> <p>On this episode of Refactored…</p> Chris bought a 3D Printer! They’re really fun hammers just begging for nails. The guys unpack letting the team learn, vs stepping in and...

Episode #158
<p>Refactored #158: “It IS Called ‘Work’”</p> <p>On this episode of Refactored…</p> The guys agree: buying a round (or meal) from time to time can pay dividends. The guys grapple with the reality of maintaining...

Episode #157
<p>Refactored #157: “No Longer Rupted”</p> <p>On this episode of Refactored…</p> Chris is tired of being disrupted. The guys talk about RAG (Retrieval-Augmented Generation) and how it can be used to improve the...

Episode #156
<p>Refactored #156: “WP Press Word Engine”</p> <p>On this episode of Refactored…</p> What’s the deal with airline peanuts WordPress vs WP Engine? Agile vs Sprints vs Scrum vs sanity. The guys debate at length. The guys...

Episode #155
<p>Refactored #155: “Six Figure Flat Tires”</p> <p>On this episode of Refactored…</p> Hill Rejection Assist: Chris complains about Honda The guys decrypt the firewall to open a socket to the kernel. Comment Block How do...

Episode #154
<p>Refactored #154: “Touching Grass: A Privilege”</p> <p>On this episode of Refactored…</p> The guys discuss DOGE: Memelordship ascendent or super cereal? I beg your finest pardon: remote work is a “COVID-era...

Episode #153
<p>Refactored #153: “Clicking Up the Wrong Tree”</p> <p>On this episode of Refactored…</p> Chris is in love with ClickUp on TikTok. Straight unhinged. But he’s not in love with ClickUp itself. The guys debate...

Episode #152
<p>Refactored #152: “A Framework of Fear”</p> <p>On this episode of Refactored…</p> Comment Block “With the explosion of AI tools I’m becoming more paranoid than ususal. How can I trust that any of these AI powered...

Episode #151
<p>Refactored #151: “Horse Massacre”</p> <p>On this episode of Refactored…</p> The guys debate risk and business context of “tech debt” and whether that term is even valid. Good luck getting management to care! Frank...

Episode #150
<p>Refactored #150: “Octo-Kimono”</p> <p>On this episode of Refactored…</p> Chris has been demoted! He explains how he fell from supreme executive to mere sea urchin. Chris rants about AWS. Those unreliable, gaslighting...

Episode #149
<p>Refactored #149: “WP Engine SHALL NOT Pass”</p> <p>On this episode of Refactored…</p> NIST SP 800-63B-4 is out, and Chris couldn’t be happier. They have now officially barred password rotations (along with some other...

Episode #148
<p>Refactored #148: “DevOps: The Third Silo”</p> <p>On this episode of Refactored…</p> The guys discuss the evolution of DevOps Still a philosophy. Still not a job title. But also, now definitely a job title. Danger...

Episode #147
<p>Refactored #147: “Pro Consoles: Nothing to See Here”</p> <p>On this episode of Refactored…</p> Chris becomes a camera snob while Frank warns against combination appliances. Nothing CEO Carl Pei issues...

Episode #146
<p>Refactored #146: “Procedural Justice”</p> <p>On this episode of Refactored…</p> Chris has a new GPT power use case. It’s not new, and it’s not his, but he pretends like it is. The guys avoid a longer-form discussion...

Episode #145
<p>Refactored #145: “Skibidi Rollbacks”</p> <p>On this episode of Refactored…</p> Chris grouses about his Logitech BRIO. Decent camera, until the autofocus goes haywire. The guys talk M&A: Elgato, Corsiar, and Origin...
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