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Real talk from an operator who learned real estate the hard way. Ed Mathews analyzed 1,100+ deals before buying his first property in 2011. Frozen in fear. He made every mistake, all while traveling 150+ nights a year working for some of Silicon Valley's top companies. 100+ deals later, he shares what actually works and what doesn't. Each week, Ed brings you candid conversations with experienced operators, investors, and syndicators. No hype. No theory. Just real deals, real lessons, and the street-level intelligence you won't find anywhere else. You'll learn and hear about: Deals that worked (and the ones that didn't) What we learned when contractors ghosted and we had to step in How to vet opportunities when everyone else is sitting on the sidelines Conservative underwriting in markets that punish optimism Systems that protect capital when deals go sideways Whether you're analyzing your first deal or your hundredth, this is the conversation you'd have over coffee with someone who's been there, made the mistakes, learned the lessons and built the track record. New episodes every Tuesday at 12pm ET.
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Signup to Generate a PitchReal talk from an operator who learned real estate the hard way. Ed Mathews analyzed 1,100+ deals before buying his first property in 2011. Frozen in fear. He made every mistake, all while traveling 150+ nights a year working for some of Silicon Valley's top companies. 100+ deals later, he shares what actually works and what doesn't.
Recent episodes include "Tax Liens 101 from the Attorney Who Helped Rewrite the Rules: Stephen Morel" (27 October 2026, 54 minutes), "Renting Dirt: Nasir Ali of Rise360 Ventures on Manufactured Housing Communities" (20 October 2026, 52 minutes), and "Building an AI Investment Committee: Palmy Kitti of The Kitti Sisters" (6 October 2026, 48 minutes).
Real Estate Underground publishes roughly weekly, with episodes averaging 44 minutes.
Booking probability for Real Estate Underground is 36%, and the host is rated Selective on guests. Real Estate Underground requires a Pod Score of 80 or higher. Real Estate Underground's contact route on record: verified email.
The strongest fits for Real Estate Underground are Property Management & Appraisal. Real Estate Underground has a business audience and around 180 subscribers on YouTube.
Real Estate Underground is a business podcast.
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Episode #218
Stephen Morel has spent more than 20 years as a Louisiana title attorney working in the messiest corner of title work: delinquent tax sale titles. He helped rewrite Louisiana's tax sale law, and after Hurricane Katrina...
Episode #217
Nasir Ali runs Rise360 Ventures. He comes from eight generations in commercial real estate and is the second generation in manufactured housing, a business his family just marked 45 years in, through at least nine...
Episode #215
Palmy Kitti and her sister Nan started a fashion business with $2,000. Years later their biggest client shut down all its retail stores and 95% of their income was gone overnight. They moved into flipping houses in Los...
Episode #214
Jason Williams spent 15 years as a chemical engineer. He's owned real estate since 2003 and large multifamily since 2017. When he started underwriting apartments, half the spreadsheets he was handed had broken cells and...
Episode #213
Stewart Heath, CPA went into 2008 over-levered and under-reserved. He handed buildings back to the banks. He says that for want of roughly $300,000 in reserves he would still own them, and every rule he operates by now...
Episode #212
Twenty-five years ago Jeff Emalaba was a guest host on CNBC Africa, analyzing derivatives, commodities and futures, and holding an options license in Florida. He describes all of it as one subject: risk transference...
Episode #211
Mark Khuri co-founded SMK Capital Management with his father, Dr. Suheil Khuri, pooling family capital informally before opening the firm's doors in 2010. They operated properties directly through 2017, then pivoted...
Episode #210
Most people hear hotel conversion and picture a novelty deal. Dr. Alex Cartwright built a company around it, and the reason is arbitrage that is not subtle. His firm buys hotels that have no future as hotels. Sometimes...
Episode #209
Most small real estate operators manage their finances by looking at what is in the bank. Money in is income, money out is expenses, and the question every Monday is how do I survive the next ninety days. Alex Lopez...
Episode #208
Shams Merchant structures syndications and investment funds for clients across the country. He also runs his own fund-of-funds, allocating LP capital across about fifty sponsors, which means he sees both sides of the...
Episode #207
Rob Bergeron writes a free newsletter at five in the morning, five days a week, and has for years. One Saturday he sent it out saying he saw something happening between data and energy and wanted in. A reader named...
Episode #206
Will Harvey got into real estate the way a lot of people do. He dropped out of college after a double hip surgery ended football, landed on a mortgage desk in 2015, and figured out fast how leverage worked. He bought...
Episode #205
Vessi Kapoulian spent fifteen years as a commercial lender. She underwrote more than a thousand deals and managed a credit portfolio north of a billion dollars before she ever bought a building for her own account. That...
Episode #204
Most investors say there are no deals. Dr. Jordan Romano says you are looking in the wrong place. Jordan is a physician in the Boston area who has spent about a decade investing in one small New Hampshire town, the town...
Episode #203
Joel Friedland calls himself the most risk-averse real estate investor in the United States, and he has the scar tissue to prove it. In 2008 he was carrying $70 million in personal guarantees across 50 buildings. Ten of...
Episode #202
Gino Barbaro is a best-selling author and co-founder of Jake & Gino, but he did not start there. He opened a restaurant with his family in 1994, lost money on his early real estate deals, and only found his footing when...
Episode #201
Robbie Crager bought his first house at 25 with no money, bad credit, and no idea what he was doing. He had just lost a corporate job and had watched Carlton Sheets on late-night television promise he could buy a house...
Episode #200
For the 200th episode of the Real Estate Underground, the conversation lands on a city near and dear to Ed's heart: Detroit. His guests are James Lloyd and Voytek Mardula of US Properties , a Toronto-based team that has...
Episode #199
If you are within three feet of Ed Mathews, you are probably talking about real estate. This week the conversation is with Tom Dunkel, managing principal at Eagle Capital Investments , and it is a clinic in how to vet a...
Episode #198
Short-term rentals are supposed to be the most hands-on asset class in real estate. Tim Hubbard runs hundreds of them across the U.S. and multiple countries— without ever being on the ground . Tim is the CEO and...
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