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Pay or Quit

Hosted by Shawn Austin Johnson · business · EN-US

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the podcast for entrepreneurs and business owners ready to face the raw truth of what it takes to succeed. Host Shawn Austin Johnson goes beyond polished success stories to explore the real, often messy, and challenging aspects of business ownership. This podcast is for those who feel isolated in their entrepreneurial journey, battle imposter syndrome, or face burnout. Shawn offers candid insights and isn't afraid to tackle tough conversations on what truly matters in business. Expect in-depth discussions, spicy takes, and interviews with guests who aren't afraid to confront the hard questions. Tune in weekly for an unfiltered look at entrepreneurship. It's not always pretty, but it's always real. Buckle up!

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38%

Guest openness

Selective

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What is Pay or Quit about?

the podcast for entrepreneurs and business owners ready to face the raw truth of what it takes to succeed. Host Shawn Austin Johnson goes beyond polished success stories to explore the real, often messy, and challenging aspects of business ownership. This podcast is for those who feel isolated in their entrepreneurial journey, battle imposter syndrome, or face burnout.

Who hosts Pay or Quit?

Pay or Quit is hosted by Shawn Austin Johnson. The show has published 33 episodes to date.

What has Pay or Quit covered recently?

Recent episodes include "In and Out of Foster Care to CEO: I Broke the Patterns of My Past | Tristian Clark" (8 June 2026, 78 minutes), "Build Wealth the Smart Way | Aaron Robertson" (16 February 2026, 25 minutes), and "Flipping Houses at Scale Not Lifting A Hammer | Sam Eddinger" (10 November 2025, 29 minutes).

How often does Pay or Quit publish?

Pay or Quit publishes roughly monthly, with episodes averaging 40 minutes across 33 episodes.

How hard is it to get booked on Pay or Quit?

Booking probability for Pay or Quit is 38%, and the host is rated Selective on guests. Pay or Quit requires a Pod Score of 80 or higher. Pay or Quit's contact route on record: public web form.

Who should pitch Pay or Quit?

The strongest fits for Pay or Quit are Business & Management Consulting. Pay or Quit has a business audience.

About the host

Shawn Austin Johnson hosts Pay or Quit, a business podcast with 33 episodes published.

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Recent episodes

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  • Episode #25

    In and Out of Foster Care to CEO: I Broke the Patterns of My Past | Tristian Clark

    Jun 8, 20261h 18mS2

    <p>Send us Fan Mail</p><p>22-year-old entrepreneur and owner of Clark Construction, Tristan Clark. He's building a business to be proud of while coming from an almost impossible home life. Tristan Clark shares the...

  • Episode #24

    Build Wealth the Smart Way | Aaron Robertson

    Feb 16, 202625 minS2

    <p>Send us Fan Mail</p><p>In this episode, we dive into the core principles of achieving success through sheer hard work and unwavering discipline. We explore the powerful mindset required to overcome obstacles and...

  • Episode #23

    Flipping Houses at Scale Not Lifting A Hammer | Sam Eddinger

    Nov 10, 202529 minS2

    <p>Send us Fan Mail</p><p>In this episode, we dive into the strategic insights of a seasoned real estate investor and property manager. He shares valuable lessons on the importance of starting early, holding properties...

  • Episode #22

    Why most businesses never break through (until they learn this) | Ben Serven

    Nov 3, 202543 minS2

    <p>Send us Fan Mail</p><p>Ben Serven, the founder of Black Sheep Global, discusses the transformative power of process optimization and automation in property management. Learn how to document, implement, and automate...

  • Episode #21

    What Does Social Media and Monopoly have in Common? | Barrett Freeman

    Oct 27, 202530 minS2

    <p>Send us Fan Mail</p><p>Building and Leveraging Social Media for Real Estate Success - "I control 8% of all Facebook Traffic in Kentucky"<br/><br/>In this episode, Barrett Freeman, an insurance attorney, property...

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  • Episode #20

    Black Hawk Helicopter Pilot to Business Ownership | Jason Santiago

    Sep 29, 20251h 9mS2

    <p>Send us Fan Mail</p><p>From Combat Pilot to Gym Owner: Jason Santiago's Journey of Service and Entrepreneurship<br/><br/>Join us in this episode of Pay or Quit as we sit down with Jason Santiago, a former Black Hawk...

  • Episode #19

    Is outbound sales right for you? | Ben Smith

    Sep 15, 202559 minS2

    <p>Send us Fan Mail</p><p>Mastering Outbound Sales with Ben Smith<br/><br/>In this episode, Shawn interviews Ben Smith, the founder of Bright Reach Sales, who has over seven years of experience in driving revenue...

  • Episode #18

    Your business is failing because of this

    Apr 28, 20257 minS2

    <p>Send us Fan Mail</p><p>The dangers of becoming too comfortable in business, warning that complacency can lead to failure. A quick-fire challenge with five crucial questions to determine if your business is on the...

  • Episode #16

    Your Personal Brand Matters to Scale Your Business | Drea Buer

    Mar 17, 20251 hourS2

    <p>Send us Fan Mail</p><p>Mastering Social Media Branding with Drea Buer: Insights from Respect the Brand<br/><br/>In this episode, Shawn welcomes Drea Buer, branding expert and founder of Respect the Brand. Drea shares...

  • Episode #17

    Your Business is Worth $0 Until You Fix These 3 Things. Then it becomes irresistible!

    Mar 11, 20256 minS2

    <p>Send us Fan Mail</p><p>Why Your Business Is Worth Nothing Until You Fix These Issues<br/><br/>In this episode of the Payer Quit podcast, Shawn Austin Johnson discusses the harsh reality that many businesses are...

  • Episode #15

    The Heartbeat of Business Success | Peter Hernandez

    Feb 24, 20251 hourS2

    <p>Send us Fan Mail</p><p>Figure this out, and your business will thrive. In this episode of 'Pay or Quit,' host Shawn Austin Johnson dives deep into the real challenges of business and relationships with special guest...

  • Episode #14

    The Most Powerful Wisdom I've Collected Over 12 Years

    Feb 17, 202519 minS2

    <p>Send us Fan Mail</p><p>In this episode of Pay or Quit, I’m sharing the most powerful quotes I’ve collected over 12 years—wisdom that has shaped my journey as an entrepreneur. From legendary leaders to personal...

  • Episode #13

    Two Practical Paths to Financial Freedom

    Feb 10, 202521 minS2

    <p>Send us Fan Mail</p><p>Practical strategies for entrepreneurs to deploy their profits while growing their wealth.<br/><br/>Shawn Johnson shares a recent mentoring session he had with a friend who sought his advice on...

  • Episode #12

    Do you Have to Choose Between Success and Family? | Berenice Brito

    Feb 3, 202539 minS2

    <p>Send us Fan Mail</p><p>Balancing Success: Career, Relationships, and Entrepreneurship with Berenice Brito<br/><br/>Shawn Johnson, along with his guest, Berenice Brito, discuss the misconception that success in career...

  • Episode #11

    Transforming Financial Defaults into Intentional Design

    Jan 6, 202555 minS2

    <p>Send us Fan Mail</p><p><br/>To see if you're a fit for Shawn's exclusive Generational Wealth Framework for PMC owner's program: Schedule here<br/><br/>Mastering Financial Freedom: The Intersection of Entrepreneurship...

  • Episode #10

    What It Takes To Be A Millionaire: 3 Principles to Becoming Rich

    Dec 24, 202439 minS2

    <p>Send us Fan Mail</p><p>To see if you're a fit for Shawn's exclusive Generational Wealth Framework for PMC owner's program: Schedule here<br/><br/>Mastering Mindset and Financial Discipline for Wealth...

  • Episode #9

    From Pastor to Entrepreneur: I Built a Thriving Business in a New Industry from Scatch | Cody Stovall

    Dec 16, 202447 minS2

    <p>Send us Fan Mail</p><p>To see if you're a fit for Shawn's exclusive Generational Wealth Framework for PMC owner's program: Schedule here<br/><br/>Scaling a niche entertainment business in multiple...

  • Episode #8

    Helicopter Sales CEO: How Grit Got Me to the TOP Disrupting an Industry | Halsey Schider

    Dec 9, 202450 minS2

    <p>Send us Fan Mail</p><p>To see if you're a fit for Shawn's exclusive Generational Wealth Framework for PMC owner's program: Schedule here<br/><br/>From Professional Helicopter Pilot to Successful...

  • Episode #7

    Are You Making This Fatal Business Error That's Killing Your Business?

    Dec 3, 202431 minS2

    <p>Send us Fan Mail</p><p>To see if you're a fit for Shawn's exclusive Generational Wealth Framework for PMC owner's program: Schedule here<br/><br/>Why Small Businesses Fail: The Gritty Truth<br/><br/>In this episode...

  • Episode #6

    Master Delegation: Let Go of Control and See Your Business Scale

    Nov 25, 202431 minS2

    <p>Send us Fan Mail</p><p>To see if you're a fit for Shawn's exclusive Generational Wealth Framework for PMC owner's program: Schedule here<br/><br/>Mastering Delegation: From Tasks to Leadership<br/><br/>In this...

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