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Hosted by Janel Torkington · business · EN
For the people in rooms where hard things get built.Flying the Coop is Janel and Anna of Strange Birds, a worker-owned co-op, thinking out loud about how structure shapes what's possible.Conversations with founders, operators, and organizational leaders doing serious work on what business can actually be.
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Signup to Generate a PitchFor the people in rooms where hard things get built. Flying the Coop is Janel and Anna of Strange Birds, a worker-owned co-op, thinking out loud about how structure shapes what's possible. Conversations with founders, operators, and organizational leaders doing serious work on what business can actually be.
Flying the Coop is hosted by Janel Torkington. The show has published 21 episodes to date.
Recent episodes include "#19 We did the thing and you can too: We're a co-op!" (5 August 2026, 37 minutes), "#18 EMMA Technology Cooperative: Businesses need more verbs" (4 June 2026, 36 minutes), and "#17 Jessica Lackey: You can't move faster than the speed of your own growth" (7 May 2026, 39 minutes).
Flying the Coop publishes roughly every two weeks, with episodes averaging 33 minutes across 21 episodes.
Booking probability for Flying the Coop is 30%, and the host is rated Selective on guests. Flying the Coop requires a Pod Score of 80 or higher. Flying the Coop's contact route on record: verified email.
The strongest fits for Flying the Coop are Business & Management Consulting and Holding Companies & Corporate HQs. Flying the Coop has a business audience.
Janel Torkington hosts Flying the Coop, a business podcast with 21 episodes published.
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Episode #19
"We're optimizing for a sustainable container to take care of the people within it — and to do some cool work while we're at it." - Janel Torkington Most businesses optimize for growth. Scale as much as possible, make...
Episode #18
"When you take infinite growth off the table, this entire world of possibilities opens up." — Ramsey Nassar, EMMA Technology Cooperative We make this show to learn things, ask good questions, and let really cool people...
"If they teach you how to build a business, you stop buying their stuff. That's not what they want." — Jessica Lackey A lot of business advice is a slot machine dressed up as a strategy. Jessica Lackey's book Leaving...
"Collective care feels like an exhale — like finally being able to breathe at work." – Nilou Khonsari Most organizations that say they value collective care don't actually build for it. They write values statements...
"If you want to take the time to really understand every human being you're working with — that takes more time. And time is money. And that's inherently anti-capitalistic." — Meg Rye Hiring is a power system. Most...
Episode #14
“We’ve been sold such a narrow idea of what a business can be — like you either coach or sell a course. But there are so many ways to build something rich and beautiful, something that’s actually yours. A business can...
Episode #13
“Supply chains are made of people, not just products or paperwork.” – Sara Otto Supply chains touch almost everything we buy — clothes, home goods, gifts, art — yet most of us never really see how they work, or who they...
Episode #12
“Human rights aren’t things that happen over there . They show up in everyday business decisions.” – Chloe Poynton Chloe Poynton is the co-founder of Article One Advisors , a global consultancy that works with companies...
Episode #11
"Every business could be a social enterprise if they wanted it badly enough." – Lauren Edwards Lauren Edwards has spent her career helping businesses stop treating "doing good" as an afterthought, and start building it...
“Capitalism is all about squeezing every last bit of value you can… and what we are trying to do is explore a model that allows us to exist within a capitalist hellscape, but takes care of us as a fundamental driving...
Episode #9
“What’s the ROI of creativity? That's like asking, what’s the ROI of electricity?” - Noah Scalin Noah Scalin is a multidisciplinary artist, author, and co-founder of Another Limited Rebellion, where he helps individuals...
Episode #8
“If you’re forgetting the basic fundamentals of how we can be here together, that’s not optimization — it’s an illusion.” - Elijah Zimmerman Elijah Zimmerman is an interfaith minister, nonprofit leader, and PhD in...
Episode #7
“Collaborative ownership and collaborative governance is a vessel to make our mission happen.” - Brandon Reid Brandon Reid and Andrew Jacob are longtime friends turned co-founders of Heirloom, a platform for...
Flying the Coop
In two weeks, on 26 November, we’re going to delist our podcast Flying the Coop from Spotify. It'll still be available on just about every other podcast platform, plus streaming on our own website . If you’re one of...
Episode #6
“The way that my brain didn’t fit was also the reason for my success.” - Nancy Disbrow Nancy Disbrow is the sharp and deeply empathetic brain behind Neuro-osity, where she helps high-achieving professionals (especially...
Episode #5
“The goal is to reach mutual understanding and agreement, not to win.” - Janel Torkington Oh hey, a mini-episode on how we do business differently at Strange Birds! This decision-making framework works magic because: It...
Episode #4
“The cooperative model is healing the way we interact and relate to each other… and it allows us to practice law in a healing way.” – Jacqueline Radebaugh From corporate tax law to co-ops, Jacqueline has been on quite a...
Episode #3
“People work better when they believe in what they are working for.” - Alfred Garcia Alfred is a member of Jamgo, a developer co-op based in Barcelona that has been around for nearly 15 years. On top of that, he lives...
“Truth is multifaceted and always shifting. So let’s talk to lots of people and find out lots of stories.” - Janel Torkington It made sense to kick off our podcast in conversation with each other. What the heck are we...
“Purpose without profit is a dream. Profit without purpose is meaningless.” - Haley Boehning Every time we have a call with Haley, we always think “wow, we should have recorded that.” Well, lucky you! We finally...
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Technology Director, EMMA Technology Cooperative
Head of Marketing, Henrico County Police Department
Article One Advisors
Center for Mindful Self-Compassion
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