Hosted by attorney and mediator Cary Jacobson , the Drama-Free Divorce Podcast brings you practical guidance, real conversations, and expert insights to help you navigate divorce with clarity, confidence, and less conflict. Each week, we break down the emotional, financial, and legal challenges of divorce and co-parenting, without the chaos. Through interviews with industry professionals, personal stories, and step-by-step strategies, you’ll learn how to protect your peace, communicate effectively, and make informed decisions that support your future. Whether you’re considering divorce, in the middle of it, or rebuilding afterward, this podcast is your supportive guide to a calmer, more empowered path forward. New episodes weekly. Tune in for tools, tips, and conversations that put your family’s well-being first.
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EP #22: Should I Stay in My Marriage? Deciding from Peace, with Master Coach Betsy Pake
Sep 30, 202620 minS2
You've been in this marriage a long time. Lately you've been asking yourself whether you want to stay in it — and then talking yourself out of the question before you can answer it. This episode is about that question, and how to answer it without panic making the decision for you. Cary is joined by Betsy Pake, a certified master coach who has spent twelve years helping women through midlife transitions using trauma-informed and neuroscience-based work. Betsy is the creator of the Navigate Method™ and the Mirror, Mend or Move framework, host of The Art of Living Big, and author of Start Small, Live Big . In this conversation: Why women hesitate on both sides of the decision — afraid to leave a marriage that isn't working, and equally afraid to fight for one Why midlife is so often the moment everything comes to a head How to recognize the relationship patterns you stopped questioning years ago, and where to start shifting them What it actually means to decide from peace rather than urgency The Mirror, Mend or Move framework, and how it gives shape to a decision you've been circling for months How nervous system dysregulation shows up in a marriage, and why some of this work starts with the body rather than the relationship Whether you're leaning toward staying, leaning toward leaving, or genuinely don't know, this is a conversation about getting clear first. Free guide: 25 Ways to Save on a Divorce from Divorce Professionals → https://stan.store/JacobsonFamilyLaw/p/25-expert-tips-from-divorce-lawyers-to-save-you- Find Betsy: The Art of Living Big podcast · betsypake.com · Instagram @betsypake Her book: Start Small, Live Big Work with Cary: Jacobson Family Law offers mediation and uncontested divorce for families in Maryland, DC and Virginia → https://jacobsonfamilylaw.com/contact/ Visit jacobsonworkshop.com to learn more.
EP #20: Is It a Marriage Problem or an Addiction Problem? with guest Amber Hollingsworth
Aug 31, 202625 minS2
When a spouse is struggling with addiction, families are often left with impossible questions: Is this a marriage problem or an addiction problem? How do I help without making things worse? And how do I protect my children through it all? In this episode, host Cary Jacobson sits down with Amber Hollingsworth , an Addiction Recovery Specialist with more than 20 years of experience helping people struggling with addiction — and the families who love them. Amber has built a YouTube community of over 800,000 people around a hopeful, often surprising message: addiction isn't a hopeless condition you're powerless over. It's a deeply ingrained pattern built on beliefs that can change. Together, Cary and Amber explore how addiction clouds the decision to stay or go, the difference between genuinely supporting someone and unintentionally enabling them, the hidden impact of addiction on co-parenting, and why so many families stay stuck for years before making a change. It's an honest, compassionate conversation about finding clarity — and hope — when addiction is part of the story. If you or someone you love is navigating this, this episode is for you. Book a consultation: https://jacobsonfamilylaw.com/contact/ Co-parenting tools & templates: stan.store/JacobsonFamilyLaw OurFamilyWizard, the co-parenting communication app (affiliate link): https://tidd.ly/4xm9jOf Read our latest blog: https://jacobsonfamilylaw.com/can-i-divorce-my-disabled-spouse/ Visit jacobsonfamilylaw.com to learn more. Visit jacobsonworkshop.com to learn more.
EP #19: Avoiding Financial Mistakes During Divorce with Guest Michelle Muhammed
Aug 17, 202633 minS2
Divorce brings some of the most consequential financial decisions of your life — usually right when everything feels overwhelming. In this episode, Cary Jacobson talks with Michelle Muhammed, CFP®, ChFC®, CDFA®, founder of M&M Wealth Advisory and The Next Chapter Divorce, about avoiding the financial mistakes that catch people off guard. They dig into the "financial fog" of divorce, the role of a financial neutral in mediation, post-divorce tax surprises, the contributions women often overlook, and how scenario planning helps you see your financial future before you sign anything. Listen now, and visit https://jacobsonfamilylaw.com for legal guidance and mediation support. Visit jacobsonfamilylaw.com to learn more. Visit jacobsonworkshop.com to learn more.
EP #15: Understanding Custody in Maryland with Guest Michael Mastracci, Esq.
Jun 15, 202631 minS2
Custody cases are some of the most emotionally charged parts of any divorce—and one of the most misunderstood. In this episode, attorney and mediator Cary Jacobson sits down with Maryland family law attorney Michael Mastracci, Esq., who has been practicing since 1989 and has represented hundreds of clients in custody disputes. What makes Michael's perspective especially valuable: he's served as a court-appointed Best Interest Attorney, meaning he's been appointed to represent children directly in custody proceedings. That behind-the-scenes view of what courts are actually looking for is something most parents never get to see. In this conversation, they cover: The difference between legal and physical custody in Maryland—and why it matters The "best interest of the child" standard and which factors carry the most weight What a Best Interest Attorney actually does and how it differs from representing a parent Common mistakes parents make in custody cases that hurt their position What judges genuinely want to see from both parents Practical steps you can take right now if you're in a custody dispute—or want to avoid one How understanding custody factors can help you resolve things outside of court Whether you're navigating a custody case now or just want to understand how the process works, this episode gives you a clearer picture—and a more grounded path forward. 🔗 Learn more about Jacobson Family Law: www.jacobsonfamilylaw.com 📍 Serving Maryland families through divorce, custody, and mediation. Visit jacobsonfamilylaw.com to learn more. Visit jacobsonworkshop.com to learn more.
EP #14: Navigating Financial Transitions During Divorce with Guest Jennifer Lee
Jun 1, 202624 minS2
Money and emotions collide during divorce — and the decisions you make in those moments can shape your financial future for years. In this episode of the Drama-Free Divorce Podcast, Cary Jacobson sits down with Jennifer Lee, founder of Modern-Wealth, to talk about what smart financial guidance looks like during one of life's biggest transitions. Jennifer brings nearly 30 years of financial services experience to her work with clients navigating divorce, loss of a spouse, and major business transitions. She's also the author of Squeeze the Juice: Live With Purpose – Then Leave a Legacy — a book about living with intention and leaving a meaningful legacy. In this episode, Cary and Jennifer cover: • Why having a financial advisor during divorce is so important — and often overlooked • How emotions affect financial decision-making during high-stakes transitions • The key financial steps to take as you rebuild after divorce • The concept of values-based financial planning and the "family love letter" • How to live with purpose and think about the legacy you leave behind If you're facing divorce or another major life transition and want to move from financial uncertainty to financial clarity, this episode is for you. About Jennifer Lee: Jennifer Lee is the founder of Modern-Wealth, a Sarasota-based financial planning firm specializing in major life transitions. Learn more at: https://modern-wealth.com/ 📥 Download our Divorce Mediation Guide with checklists and planning tools → stan.store/jacobsonfamilylaw 📅 Schedule a Consultation → jacobsonfamilylaw.com Visit jacobsonfamilylaw.com to learn more. Visit jacobsonworkshop.com to learn more.
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