
SUMMARY How does someone go from quietly questioning her sexuality to sharing her story in The New York Times? In this episode of Coming Out and Beyond, Anne-Marie Zanzal is joined by Tonda McKay and Barbara Rowlandson...


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Coming Out & Beyond is a podcast for women questioning their sexuality later in life — no matter where you are or what your life looks like right now. Maybe you're sitting with a question you've never said out loud. Maybe you fell for a woman or something woke up recently, everything shifted and you can't put it back. Maybe you're untangling years of religious conditioning or compulsory heterosexuality and trying to figure out who you actually are underneath all of that. Whatever brought you here — this space is for you. Hosted by Anne-Marie Zanzal — Yale Divinity School graduate, ordained progressive minister, grief counselor, and LGBTQ+ coach who came out in midlife — Coming Out & Beyond offers real conversations, emotional clarity, and grounded support for women coming out after 30, 40, 50, and beyond. We talk openly about late bloomer experiences, being married with kids and questioning, single and not finding someone who is right for us, catalyst relationships, faith deconstruction, divorce, grief, identity shifts in midlife, and learning to trust the voice inside you that’s getting louder. This isn’t about rushing labels or blowing up your life. It’s about integration. Self-trust. And the kind of community that changes everything. Because women navigating later-in-life coming out do better — emotionally and practically — when they’re not doing it alone. New episodes weekly. Join the conversation on YouTube, and when you’re ready, step inside Authentically Us (https://community.annemariezanzal.com/)— Anne-Marie’s private community for women on this journey. This journey is yours and you are coming home to yourself. https://annemariezanzal.com/maybe-im-not-straight-guide/
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Signup to Generate a PitchComing Out & Beyond is a podcast for women questioning their sexuality later in life, no matter where you are or what your life looks like right now. Maybe you're sitting with a question you've never said out loud. Maybe you fell for a woman or something woke up recently, everything shifted and you can't put it back.
Recent episodes include "Coming Out Later In Life? Here's What Can Help" (25 October 2026, 40 minutes), "I Have a Crush on My Only Lesbian Friend… Should I Tell Her?" (18 October 2026, 52 minutes), and "Coach vs. Therapist? Knowing What You Need" (2 October 2026, 47 minutes).
Coming Out & Beyond | Support for Women Questioning Their Sexuality publishes roughly weekly, with episodes averaging 48 minutes.
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SUMMARY How does someone go from quietly questioning her sexuality to sharing her story in The New York Times? In this episode of Coming Out and Beyond, Anne-Marie Zanzal is joined by Tonda McKay and Barbara Rowlandson...

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Episode #40
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Episode #39
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Episode #38
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This month on Coming Out and Beyond it is our monthly dating and relationship show, and Anne-Marie is joined by her co-coach Barbara Rowlandson, a psychotherapist and dating coach, and her wife Tonda McKay. Before the...

This month's episode with Anna Empey is the one we have all earned after a tender chapter of heavier conversations. It is lighter, there is a lot of laughing, and it is about the signs. Not the ones we noticed at the...

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Episode #32
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This week we return to one of our most beloved conversations from the archives, my talk with Dr. Mallory Hanfling, a fellow later in life queer woman, therapist, and the creator of the term Firefly. Mallory shares her...

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Episode #27
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This month we return to our lesbian dating and relationship conversation, the one we share on the second Friday of every month, and by popular request Tonda is back at the table! Anne-Marie is joined by her wife, Tonda...

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Episode #22
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