
Wrong Way Forward
54. Saving the Planet, One Maggot at a Time
Send us Fan Mail Saving the planet sounds great—until there are maggots on your patio. This week, Katy and Justin are joined by sustainability expert and author Kelly Wieger to figure out whether the everyday things we do in the name of the environment actually make a difference. Are we already past the point of no return on climate change? Does recycling really matter? Is sustainable living only for people who can afford it? What’s the environmental cost of AI? And for the love of God, can we please stop pretending anyone likes paper straws? Kelly explains why you don’t have to be perfect to make a difference—and why giving up may be the biggest wrong way forward of all. Pasted text Along the way, Katy confesses to Waffle House and disposable-straw guilt, Justin reveals the horrifying consequences of putting a chicken carcass in the compost bin, and somehow boxed wine emerges as a possible environmental solution. Pasted text Small changes. Big problems. Lots of bad decisions. Listen to Wrong Way Forward wherever you get your podcasts.

