Wrap Up

Conversation about finance, tech, AI, and crypto

Wrap Up is a business podcast hosted by Unknown Host, with 20 episodes on record and a Required Pod Score of 80. PitchCentric scores this show on Booking Probability, Listen Score, and live audience signals refreshed every 24 hours.

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  Can Tokenized Stocks Finally Open Global Markets to Everyone? - Mark Greenberg (CCO, Kraken/Payward)

  Sep 11, 202634 min

  For most people, buying a US stock is simple. For millions across Central Asia, Latin America, Africa and other parts of the world, it can still mean high barriers, limited access and a long process to open a brokerage account. Tokenized equities could change that. In this episode of WRAP UP, I sit down with Mark Greenberg, Chief Commercial Officer of Kraken/Payward, to discuss whether tokenized stocks can give more people access to global markets, starting with as little as $5 or $10. We talk about what Kraken has learned from building XStocks, which has processed almost $40 billion in volume, and why the real opportunity is not only bringing stocks onchain. It is making access to equities possible for people who have been excluded from global capital markets for years. Mark also explains why stablecoins are becoming more than a trading tool. We discuss dollar yield, cross-border B2B payments, the slow progress of stablecoin remittances and why moving money and trading assets are increasingly part of the same infrastructure problem. We also discuss: Why trading and payments are becoming one connected infrastructure problem How XStocks is expanding access to tokenized equities, including for people in markets with limited brokerage access Why stablecoin yield, B2B cross-border payments and remittances matter today What it will take for AI agents to safely transact with wallets, cards and payment rails Why consumer crypto is far from dead The regulatory clarity crypto companies need to build for the long term _____ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sirojboboev/ Newsletter: https://www.fintechwrapup.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/wrapuppodcast/ Tiktok: https://www.tiktok.com/@wrapuppodcast X: https://x.com/samboboev

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  Why AI Won’t Replace Banking Software Yet - Chris Walters (CEO, Finastra)

  Sep 4, 202631 min

  Why AI Won’t Replace Banking Software Yet - Chris Walters (CEO, Finastra) Can an AI agent release a $10 million payment? In this episode of WRAP UP, I sit down with Chris Walters, CEO of Finastra, to discuss where AI is creating real value for banks and where the industry needs to slow down. Chris explains why high-stakes payment decisions still need human oversight, how Finastra’s Global PAYplus platform directs around $7 trillion in payments each day, and why deterministic banking systems will remain essential even as AI becomes more capable. We also discuss Finastra’s decision to narrow its focus to lending and payments, AI-powered payment investigations and repairs, the future of stablecoins in corporate payments, open-weight versus frontier AI models, and why banks should prepare now for tighter AI regulation. Chris makes the case that the future is not AI replacing banking software. It is AI working alongside modern systems, better processes, and human controls. We also cover: Why banks should not let AI agents autonomously release major payments How Finastra’s Operator Assist can reduce the time spent investigating and repairing failed payments Why AI needs audit trails and controls before regulation catches up Whether banks and banking-tech providers are becoming too dependent on OpenAI and Anthropic Open-weight models, rising AI costs, and using the right model for the right task Why AI-native competitors will not necessarily win by adding AI to every part of banking How modern software, better processes, and AI can each drive efficiency Stablecoins, crypto and new payment rails in corporate payments Why Finastra sees Visa, Mastercard and Stripe as potential collaborators as well as competitors How AI could help banks move away from legacy technology faster _________ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sirojboboev/ Newsletter: https://www.fintechwrapup.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/wrapuppodcast/ Tiktok: https://www.tiktok.com/@wrapuppodcast X: https://x.com/samboboev

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  How AI agents will search and buy premium content - Michael Blau (Founder, Drip)

  Aug 28, 202632 min

  AI agents are becoming a new customer for creators. They can search, compare sources and act on information. The unresolved question is how they access trusted research and pay for it without relying on scraped content or pushing creators into another race to the bottom. In this episode of the WRAP UP, I sit down with Michael Blau, founder of Drip, to discuss the emerging infrastructure behind machine-to-machine content payments. Drip gives AI agents a way to discover and purchase premium financial newsletters, podcast research and specialist analysis. We unpack why financial research is an early use case for this model. An agent analysing a company, sector or trade does not need a full media subscription. It may need one analyst’s view, a historical newsletter archive or a specific data point. That creates a new commercial model for independent publishers: make their work available to agents and earn when it is actually used. We also discuss what this means for the economics of the creator business, the role of protocols such as x402 and MCP, and why payment, permissions and attribution need to work together before agentic research can scale. In this conversation: Why Drip began with independent financial publishers How AI agents can discover and pay for premium research The role of stablecoins in machine-to-machine payments What x402 and MCP enable in an agentic content economy Why back catalogues may become valuable assets for creators How pay-per-use could sit alongside traditional subscriptions Why stock research is an early test case for agentic content payments Whether AI-generated research should compete in the same marketplace How creators can control access to their work and retain attribution Why specialised analysts may become more valuable as agents look for reliable context The conversation goes beyond the creator economy. It is about a basic question for the internet: when software can consume information and make purchases, who gets paid, how is trust established, and what changes when the buyer is an agent rather than a person? LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sirojboboev/ Newsletter: https://www.fintechwrapup.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/wrapuppodcast/ Tiktok: https://www.tiktok.com/@wrapuppodcast X: https://x.com/samboboev

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  Why Banks Spend $60 Billion a Year on Core Banking - Martin Della Chiesa, (CEO,Skaleet)

  Aug 21, 202633 min

  Banks spend more than $60 billion a year on core banking, yet much of the industry still runs on decades-old technology. In this episode of the WRAP UP , I sit down with Martin Della Chiesa, CEO of Skaleet , to discuss why replacing legacy core banking systems remains so difficult and how cloud-native, modular and real-time infrastructure is changing the market. We discuss why the biggest competitor for next-generation core banking providers is often the status quo, why major migrations can still take 18–24 months, and how modern platforms can help banks and fintechs launch new products in as little as six months. We also get into AI and agentic commerce. Martin explains why banks cannot fully take advantage of AI agents if their underlying infrastructure is not API-based and real-time, how AI could make legacy migrations easier, and why Skaleet is building infrastructure that could allow AI agents to trigger payments on behalf of customers. We cover: Why core banking remains such a fragmented market Legacy systems vs next-generation core banking Why banks keep postponing core modernization Modular architecture and faster product launches The real cost and complexity of core migrations AI agents and the future of payments Why real-time infrastructure matters for agentic commerce How AI could help banks understand and replace legacy code The three things banks should evaluate when choosing a core banking provider Why an 800-row RFP spreadsheet may be the wrong way to choose banking technology A practical conversation about the infrastructure sitting behind modern financial services and what has to change as banking moves into the AI era. _________ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sirojboboev/ Newsletter: https://www.fintechwrapup.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/wrapuppodcast/ Tiktok: https://www.tiktok.com/@wrapuppodcast X: https://x.com/samboboev

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  Can Stablecoins Really Compete With Visa and Mastercard? - Jess Houlgrave (CEO, WalletConnect)

  Aug 14, 202628 min

  Why would someone pay with stablecoins when they already have a Visa or Mastercard? Jess Houlgrave, CEO of WalletConnect, joins me to discuss where stablecoin payments make sense and what is holding them back. WalletConnect works with around 700 wallets and 80,000 applications , reaching about 800 million end users . Around $400 billion in value moved through the network last year. The company is now pushing further into payments with WalletConnect Pay. We get into the competition between stablecoins and cards, including the fees merchants pay and the challenge of getting consumers to change how they pay. Jess explains why stablecoins can work well for cross-border payments and markets where card costs are high. We also discuss whether stablecoins are truly global and whether the market needs so many different stablecoins. The conversation then moves to AI agents. Jess explains why stablecoins could work well for small AI payments and why moving money is only one part of a payment. Compliance and security still need to be handled. We also discuss what happens to Visa and Mastercard if stablecoin payments continue to grow, and what merchants should consider before adding crypto payments. We cover: Why merchants would accept stablecoins when cards already work Same-hour and same-day settlement and the impact on merchant working capital Stablecoins vs Visa, Mastercard, PIX and Faster Payments Whether stablecoins are actually global Why emerging markets are seeing strong stablecoin demand Whether the market needs hundreds of different stablecoins What stablecoins could mean for card network pricing Why payments require more than moving money from A to B Stablecoins, AI agents and micropayments How AI agents could buy products and services on our behalf What merchants should look for when choosing a stablecoin payment provider A practical conversation about where stablecoins genuinely improve payments, where existing rails remain stronger, and how the two could coexist. LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sirojboboev/ Newsletter: https://www.fintechwrapup.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/wrapuppodcast/ Tiktok: https://www.tiktok.com/@wrapuppodcast X: https://x.com/samboboev

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