Work Is Third

Work Is Third is a podcast for people who are ready to rethink how we work, lead, and live.Hosted by Dawn Hunter, JD, MPH, CWP — Workplace Culture Strategist and leadership speaker — this show explores burnout prevention, boundaries, organizational wellbeing, and sustainable ways of working through honest conversations, research-informed insights, and real-world leadership stories.Each episode offers practical tools, reflective moments, and culture-shifting ideas to help individuals and organizations build healthier, more human ways of working — without losing what matters most.

Work Is Third is a education podcast hosted by Dawn Hunter, with 75 episodes on record and a Required Pod Score of 80. PitchCentric scores this show on Booking Probability, Listen Score, and live audience signals refreshed every 24 hours.

Dawn Hunter hosts Work Is Third, a education show with 75 episodes published.

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  Episode #75

  Rebuilt Through Grief | The Five Phases of Empathy With Michael Tennant

  Sep 21, 202649 minS1

  In this episode of Work Is Third, host Dawn Hunter sits down with Michael Tennant, founder and CEO of Curiosity Lab, creator of Actually Curious, and author of The Power of Empathy, for a conversation about grief, felt values, and what it takes to build empathy as an actual skill. After losing two of his older brothers in 2019, Michael turned his own healing process into a five-phase framework: language of feelings, importance of intention, channeling purpose, from empathy to impact, and living with abundance. He and Dawn work through the model in real time, unpack the difference between felt values and the ones we just inherit, and get into taboo topics, from non-traditional relationships to perimenopause, that most circles still avoid. Guest Info LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/michael-tennant/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actuallyc_rious/ Resources Mentioned The Power of Empathy by Michael Tennant (Chronicle Books) Actually Curious, conversation card game (Culture Edition and Human Rights Edition referenced on the episode) Abundance, guided journal by Michael Tennant Franklin Covey's Circles of Concern, Influence, and Control Eric Moussambani's 2000 Sydney Olympics swim heat, https://youtu.be/7P8U4g_srRU?si=v77u961P7lMKxCNE Let’s Stay Connected! Subscribe to the show! Subscribe to ⁠The Joyful Rebellion Newsletter⁠ Instagram: ⁠@the_dawn_hunter⁠ ⏰TikTok: @the_dawn_hunter Website: http://workisthird.com/

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  Episode #74

  What's Your Superpower, And How Do We Unlock It? | With BJ Talley

  Sep 7, 202647 minS1

  There are very few workplace problems that bettercommunication can't improve, at least according to today's guest. In this episode of Work Is Third, I sit down with BJ Talley, Founder and President of the strategic communications firm Gladius, to talk about what actually builds trust on a team. BJ shares how his fully remote company opens its books to every employee, why he believes leaders should help people find work elsewhere if it's a better fit for their strengths, and how redefining balance around equal investment changed the way he leads. We also get into his concept of unlocking someone's superpower, and why the two-thirds of life outside work matters just as much to how someone shows up inside it. If this conversation gives you something to think about, follow the show and leave a quick rating. It helps more people find these conversations. Guest Info Website: www.gogladius.com LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/b-j-talley-73b96a1/ BJ's contribution to the Work is Third Soundtrack: All These Things That I've Done by The Killers Let’s Stay Connected! Subscribe to the show! Subscribe to ⁠The Joyful Rebellion Newsletter⁠ Instagram: ⁠@the_dawn_hunter⁠ ⏰TikTok: @the_dawn_hunter Website: http://workisthird.com/

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  Episode #73

  Identity Shifts Are Not for the Weak | Reinvention With Emily Adams

  Aug 17, 202644 minS1

  What if the version of you that got you here isn't the version you need for what's next? Emily Adams left the Amish community at 17 with no roadmap—jumping out of a two-story window in the middle of the night with no plan. She went on to manage production lines for Ford, GM, and BMW, save millions in operational gaps inside a global tech company, bootstrap a tech platform from scratch, and help lead Tampa Bay Tech Week to a profitable 40-event week as COO. Today she's Managing Partner at Gulf Works Lab, a Fractional COO, and one of the clearest voices on why AI implementation fails. In this episode, Dawn Hunter talks with Emily about human design, self-awareness, building community instead of competing in silos, and why every identity shift — no matter how big or small — takes real courage. A conversation about reinvention, boundaries, and giving yourself permission to become someone new. Guest Info Website: https://gulfworkslab.com/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/emilyadams8/ Threads: https://www.threads.com/@emilyadams_ RESOURCES MENTIONED Tampa Bay Tech Week, https://www.tampabaytechweek.com/ Amplify Women Tampa Bay, https://amplifywomentampabay.com/ Human Design DISC assessment Myers-Briggs Predictive Index EMDR therapy Somatic exercises with Liz Tenuto, ⁠https://www.instagram.com/theworkoutwitch_/ Let’s Stay Connected! Subscribe to the show! Subscribe to ⁠The Joyful Rebellion Newsletter⁠ Instagram: ⁠@the_dawn_hunter⁠ ⏰ TikTok: @the_dawn_hunter Website: http://workisthird.com/

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  Work Is Third

  Stop Roleplaying In Your Own Life | Dare To Become With Jonathan Cave

  Aug 3, 202650 min

  What happens when the role you're playing on the outside stops matching who you actually are underneath it? On this episode of Work Is Third, Dawn Hunter talks with Jonathan Cave about daring to become that person instead. Jonathan is the author of The Tree and the Mountain – Dare to Become where he shares his journey to redefine himself. Jonathan was a partner in a prestigious Geneva law firm, outwardly successful yet inwardly drained, restless and unable to enjoy the life he had worked so hard to create. Determined to bridge that gap, Jonathan turned inward, asking himself who he truly was, what mattered most and why he was chasing so hard. They also unpack why "work-life balance" may be the wrong goal entirely, and the simple daily practices that can help you overcome imposter syndrome. Guest Info Website: https://www.jonathancave.com/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jonathan-cave/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@myphy7460 RESOURCES MENTIONED The Tree and the Mountain – Dare to Become byJonathan Cave — jonathancave.com/book Let’s Stay Connected! · Subscribe to the show! · Subscribe to ⁠The Joyful Rebellion Newsletter⁠ · Instagram: ⁠@the_dawn_hunter⁠ · ⏰ TikTok: @the_dawn_hunter · Website: http://workisthird.com/

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  Episode #71

  The Bottleneck Is You | Learning From Human Design With Brooke Dukes

  Jul 20, 202649 minS1

  What has to happen in your life for you to realize that you need a break – and to take it? Brooke Dukes has built four companies in 24 years, and she's found the same problem inside every one of them: the founder becomes the bottleneck. Brooke Dukes is the founder of Success by Design, a leadership operating system for founders and CEOs of small and mid-sized businesses and the author of Burn On, Not Out . In this episode, Brooke and Dawn get into what that bottleneck really is: control and fear, dressed up as "just being hands-on," and why it's often the same pattern showing up at home and at work. Brooke shares the story behind her book Burn On, Not Out , including going into preterm labor on a corporate jet at 34 and later giving herself shingles and COVID at the same time. Dawn and Brooke also dig into human design — type, strategy, and authority — as a practical tool for decision-making, boundary-setting, and finally trusting yourself again. Guest Info · Website: https://www.brookemdukes.com/ · All Socials: @brookedukes RESOURCES MENTIONED · Brooke’s book: Burn On, Not Out: Finding Fulfillment Beyond Success Let’s Stay Connected! · Subscribe to the show! · Subscribe to ⁠The Joyful Rebellion Newsletter⁠ · Instagram: ⁠@the_dawn_hunter⁠ · ⏰ TikTok: @the_dawn_hunter · Website: http://workisthird.com/

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