
Episode #21
Episode 21 | I Shouldn't Be Here: Moderna's First CSO on Making Life Count (Antonin de Fougerolles)
Tony de Fougerolles was born in Montreal three months premature, weighing about a pound and a half. He was the youngest child in Canada to survive at that age and weight. Twenty years of operations followed: doctors two or three times a week, surgery every summer, every Christmas. Ask him what he would change, and he says: nothing. "I shouldn't be here. This is all extra, let's make the most of it." He picked science because it was his worst subject. He joined Alnylam when it was six people in one room, and in 2011 became the founding Chief Scientific Officer of Moderna, ten people working on a molecule the field considered too unstable to ever be a drug. Vaccines were not the plan. Tony spent two, three months convincing chairman Noubar Afeyan and CEO Stéphane Bancel to even test them. By his count, the technology his team invented sits behind vaccines that saved sixteen to eighteen million lives. We talk about the tenfold rule (biology without a 10x effect is not worth looking at), why a good experiment gives you a yes or no answer instead of a success, why he left Moderna after two years and what stock options had to do with it, why he interviewed every single hire as CEO of Evox, who actually guards a company's culture, and why the team beats the science. Every time. ABOUT THE GUEST Antonin "Tony" de Fougerolles, board chair and investor across AI, cell therapy, mRNA and radioligand medicine. Founding Chief Scientific Officer of Moderna, seven years at Alnylam leading the RNA delivery work that produced lipid nanoparticles, later CSO of Ablynx and CEO of Evox Therapeutics. PhD in immunology from Harvard, postdoc at the University of Cambridge. He plays tennis, basketball and football, which is exactly what the doctors said he never would. LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/antonin-de-fougerolles-a41a819 ABOUT THE HOST Christian Rados is a Munich-based executive headhunter for venture-backed biotech in Europe and founder of Rados Recruiting. Since 2011 he has placed permanent and interim leaders in biotech, pharma, and MedTech, over 1,000 placements from Director to C-level and board. Every search starts with a stage-first leadership analysis: stage first, then the seat, then the human. Willing to Win is his podcast with biotech leaders who built companies against the odds. Website: rados-recruiting.com LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/christianrados-biotechdreamteams ABOUT THE SHOW Willing to Win - Biotech Leaders Against All Odds. Conversations with the people building this industry, hosted by Christian Rados. Music: "Impact Andante" and "Deliberate Thought" by Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com); "Amberlight", "Simplicity" and "With These Hands" by Scott Buckley (scottbuckley.com.au). All CC BY 4.0






