What if the justice system was about more than punishment? What if it actually helped people build more stable, productive lives and safer communities in the process? In Season 2 of When it Clicked, we're showing you what a better justice system looks and feels like. Instead of just focusing on what's broken, we're exploring what’s already working and what we need to do more of – and where there are glaring gaps. We’ll hear from some industry legends, including a major film producer on how we can think differently about youth accountability, a tech CEO on how to modernize prison data systems with AI, and the head of a major government institution on how to change prison so it can change people. Join host Ana Zamora as she finds out when it clicked for them, and why we should all care about a better way forward for our justice system.
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Recent episodes include "A Better Way To Right Wrongs in the Justice System with Maya Moore Irons & Jonathan Irons" (17 December 2025, 42 minutes), "A Better Way For Prisons To Leverage AI with Clementine Jacoby" (17 December 2025, 36 minutes), and "A Better Way to Treat Kids Who Make Mistakes with Scott Budnick" (10 December 2025, 33 minutes).
When It Clicked publishes roughly daily, with episodes averaging 29 minutes across 13 episodes.
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The strongest fits for When It Clicked are Courts, Police & Public Safety. When It Clicked has an education audience.
When It Clicked is an education podcast with 13 episodes published.
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<p>What would it look like if our justice system could identify when we get things wrong – and actually fix those mistakes? WNBA legend Maya Moore stepped away from basketball at the peak of her career to help free...
<p>How can new technologies help prisons improve outcomes for people and communities? Outdated systems mean incarcerated people often lack a clear pathway to release – and might even overstay their prison sentence...
<p>How can we think differently about accountability for kids in the justice system? Hollywood producer Scott Budnick built his career making blockbuster hits like The Hangover, but his real passion is working with...
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<p>What if the key to safer cities isn’t harsher punishments, but more peacebuilding? Aqeela Sherrills helped broker the 1992 peace treaty between the Bloods and Crips – an agreement that cut LA homicides nearly in...
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<p>How can we transform prisons so they can actually transform people? That question is at the heart of Deputy Director Josh Smith's work at the Federal Bureau of Prisons, the very system that once incarcerated him...
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<p>The American justice system punishes millions of people every year. That’s what we expect it to do – punish wrongdoing. That’s what we call justice. But what if it could do something more, something that would make...
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<p>What happens when an award-winning actress, producer, director, author, and activist uses her platform to shine a light on the criminal justice system? Kerry Washington's recent projects, UnPrisoned and Daughters...
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<p>What does it mean to be smart on crime? Jeanne Woodford, former warden at San Quentin State prison, has been a longtime advocate for rehabilitation. In our conversation, she offers a new vision of what prisons could...
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<p>What happens when we give someone a second chance? For Glenn Dahl, it led to Dave's Killer Bread, a family business success story that not only revolutionized bread, but also changed how companies think about second...
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<p>What happens when the criminal justice system invests in education instead of punishment? Larry Miller is the Chairman of the Jordan Brand Advisory Board and played a pivotal role in the brand’s growth. Yet behind...
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<p>How can art transform a life? For Clarence Maclin, the answer unfolded during his incarceration at Sing Sing Correctional Facility. Through a program called Rehabilitation Through the Arts, he used theater as a way...
<p>What transforms a tough-on-crime conservative Christian from Mississippi into a powerful advocate for drug policy reform? For Christina Dent, it was her experience as a foster mom. That launched her on a path to...
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<p>What do a Nike executive, a conservative Christian foster mom, and a death row warden have in common? For all of these people, they had a moment when their thinking about justice and safety changed. Hear host Ana...
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CEO, Founder of the Anti-Recidivism Coalition, Anti-Recidivism Coalition
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author, AppleTV's 'Imperfect Women'
Director of Gainesville High School's Big Red Machine, Greenville Technical College
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