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Episode #352
Your Next Great Associate Hire Isn't Applying — Here's How to Find Her Anyway
Sep 3, 202617 min
You posted the job. You watched the applications trickle in. Then you opened your inbox and felt your stomach sink at what had shown up. Your next great hire is not applying to your job posting. She isn't scrolling the job boards at all. She's busy doing excellent work somewhere else; she's respected where she is, and she isn't unhappy enough to go looking. The only way you get her is if the right opportunity finds her. In this episode of the Wealthy Woman Lawyer® podcast, I explain why the job board is the wrong pond. There are two kinds of candidates swimming in it, and I'll describe both of them so you'll recognize the resumes in your inbox immediately. Your ideal associate is in neither group. What works instead is a recruiting network, and the key to understanding it is that it isn't a project you complete the week you decide to hire. It's infrastructure. The firms that never scramble to fill an attorney seat didn't get lucky. They built the pipeline months or years before they needed it, and they kept building it during the stretches when they weren't hiring at all. I walk you through the three places to build one. Inside the profession, through your bar association, the law school in your region, and the attorneys you've already faced across a hard-fought case. Inside your own firm, through your team's networks and the people who worked for you and left on good terms. And through the presence you keep online in the months when you have nothing to advertise. Some specifics you can act on this week. Why a $200 referral bonus moves nobody and what number does. Why the associate who left for a clerkship two years ago belongs on a list you keep. And why the post that fills your pipeline is a photo from your team lunch rather than a job listing. Then I put two firm owners side by side. One of them is out in her community constantly, in person and online, because she enjoys it. When she needs an associate, she makes a few calls. The other is so buried in the caseload that she needed help yesterday, and she's scrolling at midnight without engaging, so nobody knows she's there. You'll know which one you are before I finish describing them. Unemployment in the legal field is running around one percent right now. Waiting is getting expensive. The best time to start building your network was probably years ago. The second best time is now. Go here to listen : LINKS TO LOVE: Want to leave us a review on Apple Podcasts? We'd so appreciate it, and it helps more women law firm owners find the show. Here's the link . Do you know you need to hire, and have you been putting it off because it sounds like too much work or you aren't sure where to start? Book a call with me. Go to wealthywomanlawyer.com and click the Apply Now button at the top of the home page, complete our practice growth assessment, and then schedule a time to meet with me or someone on my team. Inside our programs, we teach you how to build your own hiring system, so you have something to turn to the next time instead of starting over from scratch.
Epi 351 | 12 Gold Nuggets from Our Most Popular Episodes in the Last 12 Months
Aug 20, 202625 min
We've been making the Wealthy Woman Lawyer® podcast for more than seven years now. A lot of good material gets said once around here and then rolls off into the archive, so I went back and pulled the 12 most downloaded episodes of the last 12 months and took one takeaway out of each. Then I counted them down. Here's some of what made the list. The sentence I said to a personal injury owner whose firm was doing high seven figures and who still could not leave for a week. If everything falls apart when you step away, you don't own a business. You own a very demanding, very stressful job. There's $84 trillion moving between generations in this country right now, and by 2030 women are expected to control as much as $30 trillion of it. Those women are going to need an estate planning attorney, a business attorney, a family law attorney. Whether they can find you is a different question. Most firms automate the calendar and the intake form and stop there, which is the easy part. Picture a firm converting 5 percent of its website visitors, which is normal. Add follow-up that happens whether or not anyone in your office remembers to do it and that number can reach 18 percent. Same traffic, same website, 3.6 times the clients. When we sit down with a new client and look at her fee structure, we routinely find she's undercharging by 30 to 50 percent. The fee usually got set years ago by a version of her with less experience and less confidence, and nobody has revisited it since. One client was upset about the $9,000 she'd spent on Google Ads over six months. That $9,000 brought her one client. That client paid her firm $40,000. She couldn't see the $31,000 return because she was staring at the expense line. And my personal favorite of the 12: email is other people's agenda for your life. There are six more, including the one about choosing your uncomfortable, and the reason burnout has less to do with how many hours you work than which hours you're spending on the wrong things. Go here to listen : LINKS TO LOVE Want to leave us a review on Apple Podcasts? We'd so appreciate it, and the algorithm will share the show with other women lawyers who'd enjoy it too. Here's the link . Are you beyond ready to get help scaling your own firm? Book a call with me. Go to wealthywomanlawyer.com , click the Apply button at the top of the page, complete our short Practice Growth Assessment, and then schedule a Zoom with me or someone on my team. This is not a high-pressure sales call. It's a conversation about where your firm is today, your goals, and what's keeping you from reaching them. Sometimes it ends with us working together. Sometimes it ends with you having a much clearer picture of your next step.
Episode 350 | What Legal Recruiters Tell Us About How Small Firms Are Attracting Associates Without Big Law Salaries
Aug 13, 202622 min
Get a few women law firm owners in a room, and the conversation turns to hiring, and then somebody asks the question that sits on every small firm owner's mind. How am I supposed to compete with the bigger firms when it's time to hire an associate? Most of us decided we lost that contest before it started. In this episode of the Wealthy Woman Lawyer® podcast, I dug into what legal recruiters are telling us right now, in 2026, about how solo and small firms are landing good associate attorneys. Some of what they said may surprise you. Start with the market. Unemployment for attorneys has been sitting around 1.5%, so recruiters aren't sorting through a stack of desperate applicants. They're competing to reach people who already have a job and think it's fine. That changes what your offer has to do. And remember that if Big Law is only hiring the top one percent out of the top-tier schools, that leaves 99 percent of us. I walk through the five things recruiters say are pulling strong candidates toward smaller firms. You already have access to most of them. You may never have told a candidate about a single one. We also cover the one-page exercise recruiters want you to do before you write a word of a job posting, three interview questions worth stealing for your next conversation, and why the speed of your hiring process is part of your pitch whether you meant it to be or not. Then there's Renee, who ran a family law practice doing $650,000 a year and spent two years telling herself she couldn't afford an associate. The woman she hired had a higher offer on the table from a larger firm and took Renee's anyway. A year later, that associate was running the firm's entire custody caseload on her own, revenue was up almost 30 percent, and Renee took a full week of vacation without her phone. You are not losing a compensation war. You were never in one. Go here to listen : LINKS TO LOVE: Want to leave us a review on Apple Podcasts? We'd so appreciate it, and it helps more women law firm owners find the show. Here's the link. Do you know you need to hire, and have you been putting it off because it sounds like too much work, or you aren't sure where to start? Book a call with me . Go to wealthywomanlawyer.com and click the Apply Now button at the top of the home page, complete our practice growth assessment, and then schedule a time to meet with me or someone on my team. Inside our programs, we teach you how to build your own hiring system, so you have something to turn to the next time instead of starting over from scratch.
Episode 349 | Your Mission for the Remainder of 2026: Expanding Your Firm’s Capacity for Wealth and Freedom
Aug 6, 202626 min
There is a document somewhere in your firm that lists what everyone earns. Your paralegal is on it. Your associate is on it. The bookkeeper who comes in on Thursdays is on it. And near the bottom, or more likely nowhere at all, is you. What you take home isn't a number you set. It's whatever is left over after everyone else has been made whole. You've probably told yourself the arrangement is temporary. It was temporary in year two. It was temporary in year five. In this episode of the Wealthy Woman Lawyer® podcast, I take on owner compensation, which is the least discussed number in law firm ownership and the one that sets the ceiling on everything above it. I've been listening to the business podcasts this quarter, and two of them ran full episodes on how to compensate a law firm team. Both were useful. Neither one asked the question that comes first. So we're doing this in the right order. What you pay yourself, and then what you pay everyone else. I walk you through the four doors money reaches an owner through, and only one of them shows up on a pay stub. Then I'm going to ask you to add up all four for last year and divide by every hour you worked, including the Sunday evenings and the phone calls on the drive home. I've run that exercise with owners of firms doing well over a million dollars in revenue who found out they were the lowest paid professional in the building. We also get into why this is a growth problem rather than a self-care problem. An underpaid owner prices poorly, because her own compensation is the loudest evidence she has about what her time is worth. She builds a bonus plan for her team that only survives as long as she's willing to absorb the difference herself. And she builds a firm nobody could buy, because any competent purchaser will find the subsidy in an afternoon. Then I show you how to set your own number with math instead of waiting for permission from your profit and loss statement. There's homework at the end. Three steps and one date on the calendar. You are not the last line item. You are the reason there is a line at all. Go here to listen : LINKS TO LOVE Have you left us a review on Apple Podcasts yet? Women lawyers tell me all the time that they've been following me for years, so if you're one of them, please subscribe and leave a review. I would so appreciate it. Here's the link . No idea what you should be paying yourself, and you've been avoiding it for years? Book a call with me . You'll fill out a brief application so we understand where you are and where you want to go, and then you can schedule a Zoom call. This is not a sales pitch. It's a real conversation about your firm, your vision, and the right next step for you.
Episode 348 | Why Focus on Your Firm’s Reputation Is Your Best Strategy in the Face of an AI Takeover
Jul 30, 202625 min
It's 11 at night, and a woman is sitting at her kitchen table with her laptop open. Her mother died six weeks ago. There's a house, there's a brother with opinions, and she's been meaning to call a lawyer for about a month. Instead she types the whole mess into a chat window. The answer she gets back is decent. Organized. It doesn't ask her for a retainer or make her feel foolish. She closes the laptop and sleeps better than she has in weeks. That woman was going to call you on Monday. In this episode of the Wealthy Woman Lawyer® podcast, I get into what that actually means for your firm. I'll say up front that I'm not an AI expert, and I'm not going to hand you a tool list. Honestly, I think anyone claiming to be an AI expert for the legal industry right now knows only a little more than you do. What I do know is what makes a law firm valuable, and I've watched plenty of firms get hit by new technology before. We talk about the physical limits on AI that almost nobody in the legal world is discussing. Electricity. Water. Price, and why the tool you're paying 20 dollars a month for isn't going to stay 20 dollars a month. There's also a public database of court cases involving citations that AI simply made up. It's past 1,800 now, and in more than 700 of them the person who filed the bad material was a lawyer. Then I take on the answer most lawyers land on, which is to get better at prompting than their clients are. Prompting is a real skill. It isn't a strategy. Anything you can learn about operating a tool, your competitor can learn by Friday. So here's the question I think matters instead. When legal information gets cheap and instant, what's left that's still hard to get? I have three answers, and all three of them already belong to you. I also give you the three things I'd build over the next 12 months, and the two things I would never, ever hand to a machine. Every competitor you have is announcing their technology initiatives right now. There is enormous room to be the firm that announces its humanity. Go Here to Listen : LINKS TO LOVE Want to leave us a review on Apple Podcasts? We'd so appreciate it. Here's the link . Not sure where to start positioning your own firm for what's coming? Go to wealthywomanlawyer.com and click the Apply Now button in the top right corner to book a call with us. You'll fill out a brief application, then schedule a Zoom with me or someone on my team. Yes, actual humans.
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