
<p>Ed Fries joins hosts Jordan Weisman and Jonathan Grant to show how a teenage arcade hacker became the exec who helped turn Microsoft into a gaming powerhouse. Curiosity first, constraints as fuel, and a ruthless...


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Hosted by Jordan Weisman & Jonathan Grant · leisure · EN
It’s all fun and games until someone loses an eye ... or millions of dollars. This podcast drags mad geniuses and bold creators from every corner of interactive entertainment out of their comfort zones to answer the question, 'What the f**k were you thinking?' Expect brutally honest stories, creative courage under fire, and practical insights that’ll inspire (or warn) anyone daring enough to chase magic.
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Booking probability
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Guest openness
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We Thought It Would Be Easy is hosted by Jordan Weisman & Jonathan Grant. The show has published 6 episodes to date.
Recent episodes include "Ed Fries: The Father of the Xbox is Really a Hacker at Heart" (14 August 2025, 98 minutes), "Daniel Dociu: From Guild Wars to The Expanse, Making Art That Serves Story First" (31 July 2025, 76 minutes), and "Mitch Gitelman: On Building MechCommander, Shadowrun, Battletech - and Why Kindness Wins" (24 July 2025, 86 minutes).
We Thought It Would Be Easy publishes roughly weekly, with episodes averaging 80 minutes across 6 episodes.
Booking probability for We Thought It Would Be Easy is 30%, and the host is rated Selective on guests. We Thought It Would Be Easy requires a Pod Score of 80 or higher. We Thought It Would Be Easy's contact route on record: public web form.
The strongest fits for We Thought It Would Be Easy are Artists, Writers & Performers. We Thought It Would Be Easy has a leisure audience.
Jordan Weisman & Jonathan Grant hosts We Thought It Would Be Easy, a leisure podcast with 6 episodes published.
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<p>Ed Fries joins hosts Jordan Weisman and Jonathan Grant to show how a teenage arcade hacker became the exec who helped turn Microsoft into a gaming powerhouse. Curiosity first, constraints as fuel, and a ruthless...

<p>Art Director & visual powerhouse Daniel Dociu joins Jordan Weisman and Jonathan Grant to torch “style bibles,” praise imperfections, and argue that art should grow like aged cheese - slow, organic, story-first. He...

<p>Mitch Gitelman: Building MechCommander, Shadowrun, Battletech - And Why Kindness Wins</p><p>Game-making maestro Mitch Gitelman sits down with Jordan and Jonathan to spill the wild origin story of how “a kid who...

<p>Our guest this week is Kevin Hanna - who started as a scrappy game developer before making an unlikely leap into directing documentaries, including the acclaimed film about Hellboy creator Mike Mignola. He joins...

<p>In this episode, storied game designer Chris Taylor (Total Annihilation, Supreme Commander) joins Jordan Weisman and Jonathan Grant for a candid conversation about fearless creativity, costly mistakes, and why...

<p>In this episode, Jordan Weisman and Jonathan Grant talk with renowned game designer Justin Gary, discussing his journey from winning Magic: The Gathering championships to creating successful games like Ascension and...
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former Vice President of Microsoft Game Studios, Microsoft Game Studios
President & CEO, Survivor, Lost
Head of ASPI’s Statecraft and Intelligence Policy Centre, Fenner School of Environment and Society, Australian National University
CEO, Stone Blade Entertainment
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