We Saw the Devil: A True Crime Podcast
"Free Pus*y Upstairs": The Cornell 7
At 1:42 a.m. on October 20, 2024, according to a civil lawsuit, a Chi Phi brother at Cornell University told a Snapchat group of more than fifty fraternity members there was "free p*ssy upstairs." Upstairs was a twenty year old sophomore. Not one person in that chat went to the police. Two years later, nobody has been charged. Then Jane Doe sued, the Tompkins County DA reopened the case, Governor Kathy Hochul pulled it from him, and New York Attorney General Letitia James opened an active criminal investigation. This update covers everything that has broken since the lawsuit was filed. The seven men named in the suit: Matthew Ingalls, Johnathan Newell, Winston Lee, Gillio Lopes, Diego Sarabia, Scott Norris and Scott Kretzschmar. None has been charged. All seven deny wrongdoing. We go through what each man is accused of, and exactly how Cornell disciplined each one, from expulsion to reflection papers. The night, three ways: the lawsuit, the six page statement the DA built his decision on, and the police interview transcript he says he never saw. Where they agree, where they don't, and a correction on air about what her signed statement actually says. The group chat: the photo, "Shop still open?", "Boys come whip it out," and the brother who went upstairs to "check on her" and reported back. The texts: why Jane Doe likely told one of the men "non of the sexual stuff was illegal," why she reassured the people she later accused, and why survivors do exactly this. Breaking: according to Cornell's Title IX record, one of the accused men called a sorority member the next day asking her to keep a friend quiet. Asked how the brothers handled the rumors, he told investigators: "We were just in the idea of just deny." Plus the witness statement nobody can find. Why nobody was charged: New York's voluntary intoxication rule, which says a woman who chose to drink may not count as incapacitated, and a prosecutor who may not have had the whole record. The circus: #IAmJaneDoe, the doxxing attempts, the mob going after the wrong people, and the men online who audited her texts before they ever audited the chat. Reality Check: what fifty silent men actually tells you, and why trying to unmask Jane Doe is the most disgusting part of this entire story. If you or someone you know needs support, the RAINN National Sexual Assault Hotline is 1 800 656 HOPE (4673), or online at rainn.org. Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/we-saw-the-devil-a-true-crime-podcast--4433638/support . Website: http://www.wesawthedevil.com Patreon: http://www.patreon.com/wesawthedevil Robin's Instagram: http://www.instagram.com/robin_wstd Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/WeSawtheDevil Instagram: http://www.instagram.com/wesawthedevilpodcast TikTok: tiktok.com/@wesawthedeviltruecrime
