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Hosted by Kaj Rozga · 🇺🇸 US · EN · 33 episodes
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One lawyer’s journey to digitally transform his legal practice. Version Up is a podcast about deploying AI and technology in legal practice. Host Kaj Rozga — a lawyer leading innovation inside a legal team at a Global 500 — cuts through the noise to talk with the practitioners, founders, and operators actually doing the work of rebuilding the practice and business of law for the AI era.Each episode is a practical conversation about what’s working, what isn’t, and what’s worth paying attention to. No hype. No sponsored takes. Just an honest dialogue about building and deploying legal technology at law firms and corporate legal departments.For lawyers, innovation leaders, legal ops professionals, founders and investors who want the TL;DR on the state of play in legal tech.| Hosted by Kaj Rozga | Music by Brett Ryback | views my own |
Kaj Rozga hosts Version Up, a technology show with 33 episodes published.
In this episode of Version Up, I am joined by Melanie Hallas Kirsch, a senior in-house lawyer, for a candid look at her personal journey adapting to generative AI. Mel shares how an everyday practitioner in a high-stakes
In this episode, I sit down with Professor Kipp Coddington from the University of Wyoming College of Law to discuss how legal education is adapting to the age of AI and what skills tomorrow's lawyers will need to succeed
Denisa Kopandi, a senior associate at a leading Romanian law firm, joins to talk about LegalTechTalk 2026. The conversation quickly turns into an exploration of what it means for law firms to prepare for changes to the l
Abhijat (Ab) Saraswat comes on the podcast to address *the* question that is on the minds of law firm innovation leaders: what makes AI transformation stick? On the surface, it looks like everything is going great. Train
Jamie Tso and Raymond Sun join for a check-in on Legal Quants, their growing community of elite AI-native lawyers who design and deploy AI in their legal practice. A previous episode covered the origin story. This one en
Does legal tech still add value to the foundation models it is built on top of? Today's episode is a debate on the AI Wrapper -- a topic that's been moving to the foreground as the foundational models that legal tech too
What are the fundamental building blocks for becoming an AI-native law firm? Julian Gilson comes on the pod to lay out a framework for a successful transformation: people, process, and tech. Julian is founder of Intensif
The question is no longer whether the frontier AI labs are coming for the legal market. The only remaining question is: how fast and how far do they plan to take it? Claude and others are making significant moves that si
You could say in-house legal is having its AI moment. Agentic AI enables corporates to not only automate existing work but also to insource additional tasks currently bveing shipped out to external providers. It requires
Not being able to make apples-to-apples comparisons of AI tools is a major barrier to effective procurement and deployment of AI in legal. But it's also a problem for vendors who struggle to make better-performing produc
As a fellow in-house lawyer, I’m impressed and even a bit jealous of how quickly Amy Posner is able to innovate to supercharge her work at a large technology company. Amy comes on the show to drop some knowledge for in-h
The iPhone didn’t just improve mobile phone, it reshaped entire industries around it. That’s the opportunity law firms have with AI, according to Scott Kveton, CEO and co-founder of CaseMark. From Y2K to GenAI, Scott has
What is a "legal quant"? According to Jamie Tso, who coined the term, it describes a new breed of elite legal practitioners operating at the frontier of tech who will be the rainmakers of the AI era. Jamie, who is a prac
As the technical co-founder of Version Story, Jordan Bryan draws from his experience as a developer seeing how technology solved a major industry pain point: collaborating on coding projects (the solution there was GitHu
The good news for law firms? Most already have the building blocks needed to innovate on their operating model for the AI era. Rok Popov Ledinski explains why. Rok is a developer turned strategic thinker and tech impleme
I confess I didn't fully "get it" about Claude Code-Cowork-Skills-Plugins until legal engineer Antoine Louis explained it on this episode. It is a must-listen for anyone who wants to understand why it all means that we a
Joined by Kevin Keller. Kevin has done it all -- from product counsel to General Counsel, developer to inventor, from advisor to investor. And he's done it through the formative years of the internet era. The secret to h
I talk to Matt Pollins, a former BigLaw partner turned LegalTech founder. Matt spent many years practicing tech law before transitioning to building LegalTech products. Matt and I talk lawyer-to-lawyer about the practica
What does innovation at a law firm look like? How do you match client/lawyer needs to the internal resources that can address them? I explore this with Benjamin Llinas, Matter Optimization Manager at Linklaters, a global
I talk with Gwendolyn Lindsay Cooley, founder of Taimet, about productized AI solutions for lawyers, by lawyers. Her product seeks to solve a specific problem set that comes up in the day-to-day practice of every antitru
Amy Posner
Copywriter Legend
1 appearance on this show
Scott Kveton
Serial Entrepreneur, CEO & Co-founder of CaseMark · CaseMark
1 appearance on this show
Alex Baker
Member of Parliament for Aldershot and Chair of the Defence and Security Sectors Supporting Local Communities All-Party Parliamentary Group (APPG) · Legal Tech Collective
1 appearance on this show
Kipp Coddington
University of Wyoming College of Law
1 appearance on this show
Julian Gilson
IntensifAI
1 appearance on this show
Horace Wu
Syntheia
1 appearance on this show
Jordan Bryan
Version Story
1 appearance on this show
Benjamin Llinas
Linklaters
1 appearance on this show
Gwendolyn Lindsay Cooley
Taimet
1 appearance on this show
Daniel Schwarz
CompetitionAI
1 appearance on this show
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