
Episode #35
Let's talk forensics, murder, and writing a thriller!
Former pathologist Deven Greene reveals how real forensics, murder cases, and dark science power thrillers readers can't put down. If you're writing a thriller or wondering how to write a murder mystery without info-dumping, this is your playbook. In this episode of The Writing Biz Podcast, Deven shares how she turns 20+ years as a pathologist into page-turning suspense. You'll learn her simple research system for thriller writing, how to weave in medical detail without boring readers, and what happened when real life copied her fiction — from secret bioterror labs to genetic engineering headlines. She also breaks down writing dark topics like rhino poaching and black-market organs, plus her switch from small press to self-publishing. Perfect for anyone learning how to write a thriller novel, how to write suspense that feels real, and how to sell more books with true-crime credibility. Rhino Horn Underground: A Thriller https://amzn.to/4d6oP8R The Organ Broker https://amzn.to/4z6nEPr Happy Sun Farm https://amzn.to/46Ii49N Timestamps 00:00 - Meet Deven Greene: pathologist turned thriller author 00:43 - How she starts research without rabbit holes 02:00 - Her tools: internet, library books, ChatGPT and on-location visits 09:47 - Adding real science without info-dumping 15:22 - How graphic should your murder scenes be? 17:01 - When real life rewrote her plot: rhino horn trade 21:23 - When fiction came true: genetic engineering & secret lab 26:03 - Handling dark topics like black-market organs 29:55 - Police Writers Academy and getting expert help 32:38 - The forensic psychiatrist story you have to hear 40:39 - Small press to self-publishing: what changed 43:30 - Where to find Deven's books






