Worth The Work is a podcast for People leaders, by a People leader. Honest conversations about engagement, culture, leadership, and modern work — without the polish, the performance, or the predictable takes. Hosted by Courtni Hughes-Bochenek, a People & Culture executive with 16+ years of experience building, modernizing, and leading enterprise HR functions, Worth The Work explores what it actually means to lead People work in this moment. Through change. Through AI. Through reductions. Through growth. Through everything that makes our work meaningful and complicated. This is the show for anyone who cares about People work — whether you build it, lead it, or are on the receiving end of it. CHROs, CPOs, People leaders, managers, HR practitioners, and the executives who partner with them. If you have ever wondered what it actually takes to build organizations where people can do their best work, this conversation is for you. We do not have all the answers. We are not here to pr
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Courtni Hughes-Bochenek hosts The WorthTheWork’s Podcast, a business show with 9 episodes published.
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Episode #9
Episode 9: Beyond The Job
Aug 18, 202619 min
Episode 9: Beyond The Job Courtni opens by challenging the pressure to love every part of your job — work doesn't have to be your whole identity to be worthwhile. Her guest, Eric Mavor, a Director of Operations at Medline, shares how his leadership style evolved managing teams that grew from 20 to 300+ people, emphasizing a "human first" approach and figuring out what makes each person tick. Key themes: • Leadership as connection, not control — Eric credits his creative, personable style (team grilling events, celebrations) for building trust and morale, shaped by years of gaining confidence and autonomy. • Identity beyond the job — Both agree work is a means to an end, not the whole self; understanding that makes leaders more empathetic. • Boundaries and balance — Eric reframes work/life balance as intentionality rather than hours, citing habits like cutting off email notifications, protecting off-hours, and drawing inspiration from Cal Newport's writing. • Mindset and outside interests — Running, family time, and outdoor adventures recharge him; interpersonal communication skills (an unlikely community college class) shaped his leadership more than he expected. • Advice for over-identified workers — Lean into demanding seasons when needed, but stay introspective: journal, remove distractions, and identify the other "hats" you wear (parent, athlete, partner, etc.). • Closing note — Not everyone's identity outside work looks the same (parent, hobbyist, etc.), but human-to-human connection — at work or outside it — is what people ultimately need. The conversation ends warmly, with some light technical hiccups and a shared appreciation for authenticity in leadership.
In this episode, host Courtni sits down with Mel Goodman — tech industry veteran turned founder of WorkMom — to unpack the slow drift that leads high-achievers to burnout before they ever see it coming. Mel shares her own story: 15 years in corporate, multiple burnout cycles, postpartum anxiety, and the moment she found herself hoping to be on a layoff list. That wake-up call led her to leave Salesforce, take a severance, and build a business helping senior leader moms redesign their lives before they fall apart. Together, they dig into why burnout doesn't look like collapse — it looks like someone still performing, still delivering, but completely disconnected from themselves. And why the popular fixes (rest, self-care, boundaries) aren't enough when the real problem is life architecture. Key themes: The four invisible loads of modern motherhood Why the most competent women are often the most burned out "You can't self-care your way out of a structural problem" What it actually takes to step back into alignment Connect with Mel Goodman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/melgoodman/ https://www.workmom.io
Worth the Work | Episode 5 "Closing the Leadership Gap with Emily Dills" What happens when your best performer becomes a manager — and no one prepares them for it? In this episode, Courtni sits down with Emily Dills, corporate and executive strategy expert, to tackle one of the most overlooked challenges in the workplace: the leadership gap. Emily breaks down why being great at your job doesn't automatically make you a great leader — and what organizations and individuals can do about it. At the heart of the conversation are the 4 leadership mindsets every manager falls into: The Mentor — High expectations + high support. The goal. The Protector — All support, low expectations. Feels caring, but stunts growth. The Enforcer — High expectations, zero support. Breeds burnout and fear. The Avoider — Sidesteps hard conversations and hopes things resolve themselves. Emily and Courtni also cover what the first 30 days in a leadership role should really look like, why emotional intelligence and time management are the two most critical foundations for new managers, and how organizations can build a true leadership culture — not just check a training box. Plus: why Emily focuses her work on middle managers, the ROI of investing in your people, and her simple advice for anyone trying to drive change in their organization: start with the new and the willing. Emily loves to begin her work by focusing on one leader and a small team because from there the ripple effects often push out through the whole organization. Get In Touch With Emily Dills: https://www.linkedin.com/in/emilydills/ https://www.emilydills.com/
<p>Worth the Work | Episode 5 "Closing the Leadership Gap with Emily Dills"</p>
<p>What happens when your best performer becomes a manager — and no one prepares them for it? In this episode, Courtni sits down with Emily Dills, corporate and executive strategy expert, to tackle one of the most overlooked challenges in the workplace: the leadership gap.</p>
<p>Emily breaks down why being great at your job doesn't automatically make you a great leader — and what organizations and individuals can do about it. At the heart of the conversation are the 4 leadership mindsets every manager falls into:</p>
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One of the most dangerous moments in leadership is the one almost no leader recognizes: the moment people quietly stop telling them the truth. In this episode, Courtni explores why silence isn't alignment, what avoidance is really costing, and the reframe every leader should sit with — the quality of a leader isn't measured by how often people agree with them. It's measured by how safe people feel disagreeing with them.
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