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Hosted by Toussaint Williams, PhD · business · EN · 40 episodes
The Serving Second Podcast with Dr. Toussaint Williams celebrates the unsung heroes of leadership—the associates, assistants, vice presidents, and right-hand leaders who make vision possible from the second chair. Not everyone wears the top title, but every leader carries weight. Through biblical insight, leadership lessons, and practical takeaways, discover how to win—even when you come in second. Subscribe and be equipped to lead with confidence, clarity, and courage.
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Signup to Generate a PitchThe Serving Second Podcast with Dr. Toussaint Williams celebrates the unsung heroes of leadership, the associates, assistants, vice presidents, and right-hand leaders who make vision possible from the second chair. Not everyone wears the top title, but every leader carries weight. Through biblical insight, leadership lessons, and practical takeaways, discover how to win, even when you come in second.
The Serving Second Podcast is hosted by Toussaint Williams, PhD. The show has published 40 episodes to date.
Recent episodes include "Be Where Your Feet Are - E41" (10 September 2026, 15 minutes), "Journal Your Journey - E39" (14 August 2026, 29 minutes), and "Surrounded! - What do I do now? E-38" (30 July 2026, 29 minutes).
The Serving Second Podcast publishes roughly weekly, with episodes averaging 36 minutes across 40 episodes.
Booking probability for The Serving Second Podcast is 32%, and the host is rated Selective on guests. The Serving Second Podcast requires a Pod Score of 80 or higher. The Serving Second Podcast's contact route on record: verified email.
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Toussaint Williams, PhD hosts The Serving Second Podcast, a business show with 40 episodes published.
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Episode #41
Be Where Your Feet Are Toussaint explores a simple but challenging idea: stop mentally living in the next season and fully engage the one you are in now. He argues that ambition is healthy, but absence is dangerous...
Episode #39
This solo episode to speaks directly to anyone serving in a season they did not choose. It names the tension of being faithful and frustrated at the same time, then reframes journaling as a tool for tracking God’s work...
Episode #38
What Do I Do Now? You went to bed thinking everything was fine. You woke up surrounded. In this solo episode, Dr. Toussaint Williams walks through 2 Kings 6, the story of Elisha's unnamed servant, to answer the question...
Episode #37
Your boss walks the floor at 5:15 checking who's still at their desk. Kevin Wayne Johnson made sure his chair was already empty, every single day, for over three decades in federal government leadership. He still made...
Episode #36
What if the seat you are waiting to leave is the very place where your leadership is being developed? In this special solo episode, Toussaint resets and reintroduces the heart of Serving Second. After months of...
Episode #35
Servant leadership is not soft leadership. It may be the most strategic way to get real results. In this episode Toussaint sits down with Kurt Uhlir for a direct conversation about leadership, humility, business...
Episode #34
The Science of Ethical Persuasion Second-chair leaders don't always have the final say — but the most effective ones know how to influence without authority. In this episode, Dr. Toussaint Williams sits down with...
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What does it really mean to serve second with excellence? Toussaint sits down with Derek Fredrickson , founder of The COO Solution , to talk about the power of operators, COOs, chiefs of staff, and second-in-command...
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<p>What if your money problem is not just about money?</p><p></p><p>In this episode, Toussaint sits down with Albert Butler, CPA, to talk about financial literacy, family legacy, entrepreneurship, purpose, and the...
Episode #31
<p>Most leaders think pressure reveals weak people.</p><p></p><p>But what if pressure actually reveals weak team systems?</p><p>In this episode of the Serving Second Podcast, Dr. Toussaint Williams talks with Daria...
Episode #30
<p>What happens when a great employee gets promoted into leadership, but no one has prepared them to lead?</p><p></p><p>In this episode of the Serving Second Podcast, Dr. Toussaint Williams sits down with Rich Ashton...
Episode #29
<p>What if high performance did not have to come at the cost of people?</p><p></p><p>In this episode Toussaint sits down with Kathy Eastwood, CEO and creator of the E3 Leadership Code, to talk about what it really takes...
Episode #28
<p>Author Patty Hampton shares her journey of serving from the second seat, the importance of authenticity, influence, and listening in leadership, and how to thrive as a second chair leader. Discover practical insights...
Episode #27
<p>In this episode of the Serving Second Podcast, Dr. Paul White shares his extensive experience in leadership and the importance of appreciation in the workplace. He discusses the five languages of appreciation, how...
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<p>In this episode of the Serving Second Podcast, Dr. Paul White shares his extensive experience in leadership and the importance of appreciation in the workplace. He discusses the five languages of appreciation, how...
Episode #26
<p>Your story is your CHEATCODE!!!</p><p></p><p>Toussaint sits down with Kirk Nugent for a powerful conversation on content, calling, service, and stewardship. Kirk is a digital strategist, media leader, missionary...
Episode #25
<p>In this episode, Toussaint interviews Ron Reich, a seasoned leadership development expert. They discuss Ron's journey into leadership, the importance of making a difference in second chair roles, and the challenges...
Episode #24
<p>Summary</p><p></p><p>In this inspiring interview, Savio P. Clemente shares his profound journey through cancer, leadership, and resilience. Discover practical strategies for leading with authenticity, managing...
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<p>Ever wondered what it really takes to pull a seamless church service together?</p><p></p><p>Spoiler alert — it’s way more than just creating a runsheet! In this episode, I sit down with the worship manager, Danita...
Episode #22
<p>Ever feel like you're stuck in the shadows or just playing a supporting role in life's grand play? </p><p></p><p>Well, buckle up, because today’s episode is all about embracing that second seat — and turning it into...
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