
Episode #10
The Road to Zero-Touch RCM: Agentic AI, Denials Prevention, and Operator Ownership in Revenue Cycle | David Kelly
In this episode of The RC Executive Lounge Podcast, David Kelly, Chief of Ambulatory Operations and Vice President of Revenue Cycle at Mary Rutan Health, returns for a second conversation focused squarely on claims denial management: how to prioritize it, how to measure success, and what it will take to reach zero-touch RCM. David opens with a practical framework for defining denial never events. Borrowed from clinical practice, the concept forces revenue cycle teams to decide which denials should simply never happen, whether timely filing, credentialing gaps, or specific CARC and RARC code combinations, and then build the discipline to eliminate them. On agentic AI, David is candid about being of two minds. The potential is real: agents that touch every denial rather than just the largest ones, faster resolution, and policy intelligence no human team could stay on top of. But the roadmap is unclear, and public backlash against patient-facing AI bots is a real constraint organizations will have to navigate. Additional topics covered in this episode include: ✅ Why RevCycle has done itself a disservice by using the word denials to mean too many different things ✅ The Paper Cuts team: the Jeff Bezos concept David borrowed to tackle the small frictions big initiatives never touch ✅ Holding steady as a genuine form of success in a rising denial rate environment ✅ Yield as the A1C of revenue cycle health: the primary metric David tracks above all others ✅ The three biggest obstacles to step-function denial improvement: new shinyism, scarcity, and workforce churn ✅ Bring denials to the operators: David's single most important piece of advice for any RCM leader Learn more about ArceeHQ and our comprehensive AI solutions platform for reducing denials, increasing adoption of patient financing and utilization of financial assistance: https://arceehq.com Download the free white paper on the play book for reducing claim denials: https://arceehq.com/claims-denial-management/the-executive-guide-to-reducing-claim-denials-with-agentic-ai Download the free white paper on the play book for increasing collections from patient financing: https://arceehq.com/patient-financing/the-financial-engagement-playbook-with-agentic-ai Download the free white paper on the play book for increasing collections using financial assistance: https://arceehq.com/financial-assistance/the-executive-guide-to-financial-assistance-with-agentic-ai Evaluate your ROI of reducing claim denials using the ROI calculator: https://arceehq.com/claims-denial-management/roi-calculator Evaluate your ROI of increasing collections from patient financing using the ROI calculator: https://arceehq.com/patient-financing/roi-calculator Evaluate your ROI of increasing collections from financial assistance using the ROI calculator: https://arceehq.com/financial-assistance/roi-calculator Access all the podcast episodes and short videos from the RC Executive Lounge: https://arceehq.com/the-rc-executive-lounge-podcast-series https://arceehq.com/podcast-shorts Subscribe to the RC Executive Lounge Podcast on your favorite platform: Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-rc-executive-lounge/id1834231179 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6Pzfp41103XlD2ItpFfbdN Amazon Music: https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/2232884f-10ae-424c-ae65-e21a93b61693/the-rc-executive-lounge Audible: https://www.audible.com/podcast/The-RC-Executive-Lounge/B0FMZNHLQK?source_code=ASSGB149080119000H&share_location=pdp #RevenueCycle #RCM #RevenueCycleManagement #DenialPrevention #DenialsManagement #AgenticAI #ZeroTouchRCM #HealthcareAI #AIinHealthcare #HealthcareLeadership #HealthcareFinance #HealthSystemLeadership #RCMLeadership #HealthcareOperations #HealthcareInnovation #ChangeManagement #CommunityHospital #HealthcarePodcast

