
The Popko Project
Ep 277: Five For Fighting on “Superman,” 9/11 & 25 Years of Music
What an absolute honor it was to interview John Ondrasik, better known as Five For Fighting—an artist whose music played such a significant part of my life in the early 2000s. The album America Town arrived during my senior year of high school, and songs like “Superman (It’s Not Easy),” “Easy Tonight,” and the rest of that record became permanently attached to that time in my life. If you told 18-year-old me that 25 years later I’d have the opportunity to sit down with the man who wrote those songs, I never would have believed you. In Episode 277 of The Popko Project Podcast, John Ondrasik joins me for a conversation about the music and remarkable career of Five For Fighting. We look back at America Town, the unexpected rise of “Superman,” and how that song took on an entirely new meaning following the attacks of September 11, 2001. With this episode releasing on the 25th anniversary of 9/11, John discusses the honor and emotion of once again performing “Superman” in New York City, his memories of performing at The Concert for New York City, and witnessing firsthand the extraordinary power music can have during moments of tragedy, healing, and unity. We also dig into the pressure of following a massive hit like “Superman” and the long process that eventually produced “100 Years,” a song that cemented Five For Fighting as far more than a one-hit wonder. John shares stories behind America Town, why “Easy Tonight” was essential to everything that followed, and how close “Superman” came to never becoming the song we all know today.John also talks about his current string quartet tour, performing alongside his daughter Olivia, his work supporting American troops and veterans, writing and performing music connected to Ukraine, Israel, and Afghanistan, and why—after decades of success—he still believes his best song is yet to come. And yes, we also talk about the other side of John Ondrasik’s fascinating life: working in his family’s shopping cart business while simultaneously becoming a Grammy-nominated singer-songwriter. This was a genuinely special conversation for me. Music has an incredible ability to transport us back to specific people, places, and moments in our lives, and Five For Fighting will always be connected to an important chapter of mine. Brought to you by Keller's Garden Center and Landscaping Services, Ionic Development, The V-Spot Bar and Scotch Sauce, makers of Happy Boy Hot Sauce and Sauced Up Jerky - get 15% off your order online at scotchsauacehotsauce.com w/ code POPKO at checkout





