
The Ode To Joy Podcast
Shün: I Moved To New York For God And Pizza
Send us Fan Mail A life can look perfect on paper and still feel hollow in your chest. My guest Shün tells the story of hitting every goal early, standing on the “top of the mountain,” and realizing he didn’t know who he was or what actually made him happy. When COVID stripped away the image, the parties, and the external validation, it forced a ruthless reset and gave him a single north star: absolute surrender to truth. We talk about what it really means to let everything burn, including the identities, possessions, attachments, and relationships that once defined you. Shün shares the intensity of ego dissolution, the terror of having no ground to stand on, and why he chose three years of solitude in a mountain cabin as a period of renunciation and spiritual practice. From there, we explore meditation, the devotional path of bhakti yoga, and how his relationship with God became experiential rather than theoretical, with Eastern teachings and Shiva becoming an important part of his spiritual path. But this conversation isn’t only about letting go. It’s also about what happens when you come back. Shün shares how self-acceptance and self-love became the foundation that allowed him to open more fully to other people, to God, and ultimately to life itself. We talk about the difference between having profound spiritual experiences and actually embodying what you’ve learned while living in the world. For Shün, that meant eventually leaving his solitude and landing in the middle of Harlem, where New York City became a new kind of spiritual practice: enjoying beauty, pleasure, creativity, pizza, people, and all the wildness of being human without making any of it responsible for his happiness. And perhaps that’s where the art of letting go ultimately brings us: not away from life, but more deeply into it. We close with joy, play, creativity, and dance. After years of finding transcendence through stillness, Shün now finds that same presence through movement and Five Rhythms, where meditation and dance become two different doorways into the same experience of being completely here. In this episode, we explore surrender, ego dissolution, solitude, self-love, devotion, spiritual awakening, embodiment, creativity, conscious dance, and what it means to loosen our grip on who we thought we were so that something more authentic can emerge. Subscribe for more, share this with a friend who’s standing at the edge of a big change, and leave a review so more listeners can find The Ode to Joy Podcast. RESOURCES: Follow Shün on Instagram: @slayer.shun Explore Five Rhythms conscious dance: 5Rhythms Support the show Buy your copy of Elena's book " Grieve Outside the Box " Follow on IG @elenabox


