
What does it take to lead in the age of Data & AI? In Episode 8 of The Next Tier Podcast, Betsy Robinson welcomes Jim Freeman, Chief Data & AI Officer at MagMutual Insurance, for an insightful discussion on leadership...


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The Next Tier is a leadership podcast about the people-decisions that shape organizations and the moments that define careers.Hosted by Betsy Robinson, Founder and CEO, and Robert Bouchard, COO, each episode features candid conversations with executives, founders, and industry leaders about how they build teams, navigate complexity, and make high-stakes hiring and leadership decisions. We go beyond titles and resumes to uncover the experiences, lessons, and uncommon turning points that influence how great organizations are actually built.Are you ready to reach the next tier?
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Signup to Generate a PitchThe Next Tier is a leadership podcast about the people-decisions that shape organizations and the moments that define careers. Hosted by Betsy Robinson, Founder and CEO, and Robert Bouchard, COO, each episode features candid conversations with executives, founders, and industry leaders about how they build teams, navigate complexity, and make high-stakes hiring and leadership decisions.
The Next Tier is hosted by Betsy Robinson. The show has published 14 episodes to date.
Recent episodes include "The Future of Data, AI & Leadership | Ft. Jim Freeman, Chief Data & AI Officer, MagMutual" (13 October 2026, 52 minutes), "Higher Stakes Higher Uptime: How to Build a Winning Team" (15 September 2026, 56 minutes), and "The Future of Go-To-Market Talent, Part 2" (26 August 2026, 33 minutes).
The Next Tier publishes roughly monthly, with episodes averaging 39 minutes across 14 episodes.
Booking probability for The Next Tier is 29%, and the host is rated Selective on guests. The Next Tier requires a Pod Score of 80 or higher. The Next Tier's contact route on record: verified email.
The strongest fits for The Next Tier are Business & Management Consulting. The Next Tier has a business audience.
Betsy Robinson hosts The Next Tier, a business podcast with 14 episodes published.
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What does it take to lead in the age of Data & AI? In Episode 8 of The Next Tier Podcast, Betsy Robinson welcomes Jim Freeman, Chief Data & AI Officer at MagMutual Insurance, for an insightful discussion on leadership...

What does it take to lead technology teams in a 24/7, high-pressure environment while still prioritizing people, culture, and growth? In this episode of The Next Tier Podcast , Betsy Robinson sits down with Adam...

What does it take to build a successful revenue organization when the market, the buyer, and the technology are all changing at once? In Part Two of Robert Bouchard's conversation with Sales Talent Group President Jenna...

Episode #6
Before becoming President of Sales Talent Group, Jenna Hicks had already built a successful career helping companies modernize the way they sell, engage customers, and drive revenue growth. She could have taken the...

What separates great technology leaders from great people leaders?Robert sits down with Jose Veras, CIO, Acrisure, to discuss what it takes to lead through enterprise transformation, balance competing priorities...

Before Jose Veras was CIO at Acrisure, or before nearly two decades scaling IT and security for a NYSE-traded exchange — he was rebuilding engines in a garage, getting handed a paycheck by a boss who stopped to ask how...

What does it take to build a 30-year career in workforce solutions, and STILL be the most curious person in the room? Just ask Ray Culver . In this episode of The Next Tier , Robert Bouchard sits down with Ray, Global...

<p>In this episode of The Next Tier Podcast, co-hosts Betsy Robinson and Robert Bouchard sit down with Joe Macchiarella, COO of ISG Technology, for a conversation on leadership, discipline, culture, AI, and what it...

Episode #2
<p>In Episode 2 of The Next Tier, Robert Bouchard sits down with Heather Rocker, CEO of Women in Technology (WIT), to explore what it truly means to lead with purpose in today’s rapidly evolving workforce. </p><p>With a...

<p>The conversation continues... and it gets even more honest.</p><p>In Part 2 of our inaugural episode, Jennifer Baker, CIO at Arvest Bank, and cohosts Betsy Robinson & Robert Bouchard pick up right where they left...

<p>What does it really take to move to the next tier — in your career, your team, and your organization?</p><p>In our inaugural episode, cohosts Betsy Robinson and Robert Bouchard sit down with Jennifer Baker, Chief...

<p>Organizations are losing an alarming number of talented women in technology - mostly in the middle tier of leadership.Managers, senior managers, directors, and senior directors — women are stepping away long before...

The Next Tier
<p>What qualities instantly build trust in any professional environment? </p><p><br></p><p>For Jennifer Baker, CIO of Arvest Bank, the answer was clear: radical candor and true urgency.</p><p><br></p><p>Jennifer shares...
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