
Episode #88
88 | The Hot Seat with Zenon Issel: Stop Selling Products. Start Selling Yourself!
The bar is lower than you think. Show up, sell yourself, and do the damn work. Hey there, Rainmakers! In this episode, I’m coaching Zenon, a Catalyst member who’s just over a year into the mortgage business and hungry to build. We break down how to earn more opportunities with real estate agents without hiding behind complicated loan products. From positioning yourself as the backup lender to leveraging niche wins and mastering follow-up, this conversation is about learning to sell what matters most: you. Because agents aren’t just buying your products. They’re buying your character. They want to know you’ll answer the phone, fight for the deal, communicate when things get hard, and actually give a damn. You don’t need twenty years of experience to win. Be hungry. Get coached. Follow up. Keep showing up. Key Insights People choose you because they trust your character, not because you have the perfect loan product. Consistent follow-up can become one of your biggest competitive advantages. Position yourself as the backup lender to earn opportunities without threatening existing relationships. Use niche wins to open doors, but don’t build your entire business around difficult deals. Help your referral partners create business instead of always asking them for business. You don’t need decades of experience when you’re coachable, hungry, and willing to do the work. Are you ready to make it rain? Let’s do this! PLUS! Do you want to be in the Hot Seat? Got a sales challenge, mindset block, leadership question, or growth decision you’re wrestling with? Send Shayla your question by video, audio, or in writing, and it could be featured in an upcoming Hot Seat episode. Submit your question: https://kprpwoltlbp.typeform.com/to/WC24kOIK Submit a question: https://kprpwoltlbp.typeform.com/to/WC24kOIK Take my Sales Archetype Quiz: https://quiz.shaylagiffordcoaching.com/ Nominate someone to be on the podcast: https://shaylagifford.com/podcast/ Connect with Shayla: https://www.instagram.com/shaygiff/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/shayla-gifford-3019396/ Show Links: https://shaylagifford.com/ https://shaylagifford.com/podcast/ https://shaylagifford.com/catalyst/ Guild Mortgage: https://www.guildmortgage.com/

