
Episode #107
#107 Catching Disease Five Years Early with Caroline Vissers: Walking Away From Faculty, Why Investors Avoid Diagnostics and Rethinking When We Diagnose
Caroline Vissers, co-founder of Immunectra and a former UCSF faculty member, who walked away from a lab of her own to build a company. Working alongside scientific co-founders Joe DeRisi and Michael Wilson, Caroline is developing blood-based tests capable of detecting autoimmune disease long before a patient ever shows symptoms. In this episode, Caroline shares why she gave up a faculty position most scientists spend a career chasing, how she prepared for the jump with a venture capital course and consulting work before committing and why the entrepreneurial path was always the real destination. She also breaks down epitranscriptomics in plain terms and explains the unusual path that led from RNA methylation research into autoimmunity. The core of the conversation is early detection. Caroline explains the prodromal phase, why MS patients often wait years for a diagnosis while irreversible neurological damage is already happening and what it means to detect disease up to five years before onset. We get into the uncomfortable reality that healthcare reimbursement is built for reactive medicine rather than prediction, how employer-based insurance may open the door and why she is upfront that policy will have to catch up with the science. We also cover the access to biobanked military samples that made the discovery possible and now serves as a competitive moat, why so many life science investors avoid diagnostics entirely and Caroline's advice for anyone weighing up a leap into founding a company. Timestamps [00:02:00] Why She Gave Up a Faculty Position Most Scientists Chase [00:03:32] Learning to Be a Founder Before Making the Leap [00:05:38] Epitranscriptomics Explained in Plain Terms [00:09:07] The Prodromal Phase and Detecting MS Before Symptoms [00:11:31] Why Reimbursement Is Built for Reactive Medicine [00:13:45] What Most People Do Not Understand About Living With MS [00:15:20] Could This Replace the Spinal Tap and Repeat MRIs? [00:17:39] The Operational Chaos Nobody Warns First-Time Founders About [00:19:48] Why So Many Life Science Investors Will Not Touch Diagnostics [00:22:30] Why Nobody Has Done This Before: Sample Access as a Moat Connect with Sandy - https://www.linkedin.com/in/caroline-vissers-b7431285/ Learn more about Immunecetra - https://qb3.org/invoke-bio-immunectra-win-100k-qb3-mentoring-awards-for-precision-cancer-vaccines-ms-diagnostic/ https://qb3.org/im-all-in-immunectras-founder-left-her-faculty-position-to-form-groundbreaking-company/ Get in touch with Karandeep Badwal - https://www.linkedin.com/in/karandeepbadwal/ Follow Karandeep on YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/@KarandeepBadwal Medical device training courses delivered by Karandeep through Bywater - https://www.bywater.co.uk/






