
Episode #226
Ep. 202 - Property Rights, Energy & the Fight Against Regulatory Overreach w/Kole Kelley
What happens when regulatory delays and federal land policies make it harder for farmers, ranchers, miners, and energy producers to use the land they depend on? On this episode of the Washington Signal Lunch Hour Podcast , host Andrew Langer sits down with Kole Kelley , Director and Senior Attorney of the Center for American Prosperity and Energy at Mountain States Legal Foundation , to discuss property rights, federal lands, agriculture, energy, and regulatory reform. Raised on his family’s cattle and show-pig farm in Colorado’s San Luis Valley, Kelley explains how growing up around agriculture, water rights, and land-use issues ultimately led him to law and his work defending farmers, ranchers, energy producers, and other property owners. The conversation covers: Private property rights and responsible land stewardship Federal land management, grazing, water, and multiple-use policies How regulatory and permitting delays can kill projects Mining, oil and gas, and American energy development The Endangered Species Act and Clean Water Act Regulatory reform and the future of the administrative state Kelley also explains why regulatory certainty matters for American competitiveness, particularly for smaller businesses that may not have the resources to survive years of administrative delays. The episode closes with a look at his continued involvement in agriculture, livestock showing, and mentoring the next generation through Colorado’s farming and ranching community. 00:00 — Introducing Kole Kelley 04:07 — Growing Up in Agriculture & Learning Stewardship 06:31 — Private Property, Water Rights & the American West 08:40 — Mountain States Legal Foundation & CAPE 11:41 — Defending Farmers, Ranchers & Property Owners 15:01 — Federal Lands, Grazing & Government Regulation 17:02 — Natural Asset Companies & Multiple-Use Lands 20:31 — How Permitting Delays Kill American Projects 23:07 — Due Process & the Administrative State 27:42 — Regulatory Reform After Chevron 29:29 — Clean Water Act & Endangered Species Act Reform 34:54 — Mining, Energy & American Competitiveness 39:33 — Football, Agriculture & the Colorado State Fair 44:42 — Closing Thoughts Follow us on social media X: @TheLunchHourPod Instagram: the_lunchhour_pod LinkedIn: Lunch Hour Podcast TikTok: lunchhourpod Find more at Washington Signal Your source for policy, national security, and investigative journalism. https://washingtonsignal.com/






