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🎙️ Welcome to The It Depends Podcast with Matt and Tenille—where every good answer starts with ”it depends.”Join us as we navigate the messy middle of evaluation, systems, design, research, and complexity. Each episode, we unpack big questions with contextual answers, candid conversations, and a healthy dose of curiosity. No silver bullets - just thoughtful discussion that embraces nuance and uncertainty.Hosted by Matt Healey and Tenille Moselen, evaluation practitioners with common goals and diverse interests. Subscribe now to follow the journey from the first episode and start getting comfortable with the grey between the black and white.
First Person Consulting hosts The It Depends Podcast with Matt Healey, a education show with 23 episodes published.
In this episode, Matt speaks with Christabelle Darcy and Alison Reedy — co-convenors of the 2026 Australian Evaluation Society Conference being held in Darwin from 14–18 September. Christabelle leads the Program Evaluati
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In this special episode, Matt and Tenille speak with Diana Connell - lived experience advocate, ambassador for McAuley Community Services for Women and Global Sisters, and a powerful voice for systems change across famil
Show notesWhat if most communities don't actually need a new co-design project — just someone to notice and strengthen what's already there? KA McKercher is a co-design and co-production facilitator, trainer and professional super
Show notesFamily violence is the leading cause of homelessness in Australia. Everything in the system — community expectations, child protection, housing support payments — pushes women to leave. And yet there's nowhere affordable
Show notesWhat does it take to engage men and boys in preventing domestic and sexual violence — and what separates the work that actually shifts things from the kind that doesn’t? Professor Michael Flood is an internationally reco
Show notesWhat does it take to demonstrate value for money in systems change approaches? Where do we start when the work is unpredictable, non-linear, and aimed at shifting mindsets rather than just hitting targets? Heidi Peterson
Show notesWhat does it take to align place-based approaches with the right kind of evidence — and why does getting that wrong cause so many problems? John Hitchin is co-founder of Stories of Change and co-author of the Place and E
Show notesWhat does it really mean to do co-design well — and when might stepping back be more powerful than stepping in? Jessie Robinson is a proud Wiradjuri man and founder of Mawang Consulting. In this conversation, he challeng
Show notesIn this episode of It Depends, Matt and Tenille speak with Dr Luke Craven, CEO of PLACE Australia (Partnerships for Local Action and Community Empowerment), a first-of-its-kind effort to connect, resource, and strengthen
Show notesCan a dishwasher be an indicator of community resilience? In this episode of It Depends, Matt speaks with historian and social researcher Dr Gretel Evans about the powerful intersections between storytelling, place, disa
Show notesWe talk a lot about what evaluation is. Methods, models, frameworks, competencies. All the pieces we use to make sense of complex systems. But what about the people doing the work. How do we think, learn, and navigate th
Show notesSuicide prevention is one of the most complex challenges in public health - but what happens when we stop treating it as an individual issue and start seeing it as a system? In this episode of It Depends, Matt and Tenill
Show notesWe throw the word co-design around a lot. It’s become shorthand for collaboration, participation, even goodwill — a prefix that promises inclusion. But what does that little “co-” really mean? In this episode, we explore
Show notesIn this episode of It Depends, Matt and Tenille sit down with Todd Miller, Associate Director of Resilience at Auckland University of Technology (AUT) and creator of the Complex Adaptive Disaster and Emergency Management
Show notesIn this episode of The It Depends Podcast, Matt and Tenille sit down with Associate Professor Emily Gates from Boston College. Emily is an evaluator, educator, and systems thinker whose work bridges theory and practice,
Show notesAnd just like that the 2025 Australian Evaluation Society Conference comes to a close! Matt and Tenille quickly debrief on the day, but most importantly we hear some thoughts and reflections from the delegates on what th
Show notesDay 2 of the 2025 Australian Evaluation Society Conference is done and dusted! Matt and Tenille debrief on the walk back to their hotel and we hear some thoughts from some of the delegates on what they took from the day.
Show notesComing to you from Canberra, Matt and Tenille summarise their key takeaways from the first day of the Australian Evaluation Society Conference in Canberra. This is the first of a three-part series covering each day. If y
Show notesIn this episode of It Depends, we sit down with internationally recognised evaluator Julian King to explore what it really means to assess value. Moving beyond traditional cost-benefit analysis and social return on inves
Show notesScaling impact sounds simple—just do more of what worked. In reality, it’s messy: contexts shift, resources are finite, politics and procurement warp timelines, and “success” looks different to different people. That’s w
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