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Hosted by First Person Consulting · education · EN · 29 episodes
🎙️ Welcome to The It Depends Podcast with Matt and Tenille—where every good answer starts with ”it depends.”Join us as we navigate the messy middle of evaluation, systems, design, research, and complexity. Each episode, we unpack big questions with contextual answers, candid conversations, and a healthy dose of curiosity. No silver bullets - just thoughtful discussion that embraces nuance and uncertainty.Hosted by Matt Healey and Tenille Moselen, evaluation practitioners with common goals and diverse interests. Subscribe now to follow the journey from the first episode and start getting comfortable with the grey between the black and white.
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Signup to Generate a Pitch🎙️ Welcome to The It Depends Podcast with Matt and Tenille, where every good answer starts with ”it depends.”Join us as we navigate the messy middle of evaluation, systems, design, research, and complexity. Each episode, we unpack big questions with contextual answers, candid conversations, and a healthy dose of curiosity.
The It Depends Podcast with Matt Healey is hosted by First Person Consulting. The show has published 29 episodes to date.
Recent episodes include "#25.3 AES26 Making Space, Valuing Place: Day 3 - A Genuine Time, and a Great Debate." (19 September 2026, 51 minutes), "#25.2 AES26 Making Space, Valuing Place: Day 2 - Evaluation is a Relational Practice." (17 September 2026, 28 minutes), and "#24 Get Listening. Get Curious. Get Uncomfortable: Good Food Systems Work with Stephanie Godrich" (22 July 2026, 47 minutes).
The It Depends Podcast with Matt Healey publishes roughly every two weeks, with episodes averaging 46 minutes across 29 episodes.
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Episode #27
Day 3 of the AES26 Evaluation Conference on beautiful Larrakia Country in Darwin came to a close, and Matt was only a day behind getting the episode out! This one is a little bit different. Matt still has a few thoughts...
Episode #26
Day 2 of the AES26 Evaluation Conference on beautiful Larrakia Country in Darwin has come to a close - but the festivities are only just beginning. The end of Day 2 formalities means that delegates are now getting ready...
Episode #24
In this episode, Matt speaks with Dr Stephanie Godrich — Senior Lecturer in Nutrition at Edith Cowan University , Registered Public Health Nutritionist, and the driving force behind the Food Community program of work in...
Episode #24
In this episode, Matt speaks with Tanya Rong — Chair of the Latrobe Health Assembly , Australia's first community-led health assembly, set up in the wake of the 2014 Hazelwood mine fire to give the Latrobe Valley...
Episode #22
In this episode, Matt speaks with Michael Hogan — Executive Convenor of the Queensland Kids Partnership , an initiative hosted by ARACY that brings together philanthropy, government, community and research to improve...
Episode #21
<p >In this episode, Matt speaks with Christabelle Darcy and Alison Reedy — co-convenors of the 2026 Australian Evaluation Society Conference being held in Darwin from 14–18 September. Christabelle leads the Program...
Episode #20
<p>In this special episode, Matt and Tenille speak with Diana Connell - lived experience advocate, ambassador for McAuley Community Services for Women and Global Sisters, and a powerful voice for systems change across...
Episode #19
<p >What if most communities don't actually need a new co-design project — just someone to notice and strengthen what's already there?</p> <p >KA McKercher is a co-design and co-production facilitator, trainer and...
Episode #18
<p>Family violence is the leading cause of homelessness in Australia. Everything in the system — community expectations, child protection, housing support payments — pushes women to leave. And yet there's nowhere...
Episode #17
<p>What does it take to engage men and boys in preventing domestic and sexual violence — and what separates the work that actually shifts things from the kind that doesn’t?</p> <p>Professor Michael Flood is an...
Episode #16
<p>What does it take to demonstrate value for money in systems change approaches? Where do we start when the work is unpredictable, non-linear, and aimed at shifting mindsets rather than just hitting targets?</p>...
Episode #15
<p >What does it take to align place-based approaches with the right kind of evidence — and why does getting that wrong cause so many problems?</p> <p >John Hitchin is co-founder of Stories of Change and co-author of...
Episode #14
What does it really mean to do co-design well — and when might stepping back be more powerful than stepping in? <p >Jessie Robinson is a proud Wiradjuri man and founder of Mawang Consulting. In this conversation, he...
Episode #15
<p >In this episode of It Depends, Matt and Tenille speak with Dr Luke Craven, CEO of PLACE Australia (Partnerships for Local Action and Community Empowerment), a first-of-its-kind effort to connect, resource, and...
Episode #14
<p>Can a dishwasher be an indicator of community resilience?</p> <p>In this episode of It Depends, Matt speaks with historian and social researcher Dr Gretel Evans about the powerful intersections between storytelling...
Episode #13
<p>We talk a lot about what evaluation is. Methods, models, frameworks, competencies. All the pieces we use to make sense of complex systems. But what about the people doing the work. How do we think, learn, and...
Episode #12
<p>Suicide prevention is one of the most complex challenges in public health - but what happens when we stop treating it as an individual issue and start seeing it as a system?</p> <p>In this episode of It Depends, Matt...
Episode #11
<p>We throw the word co-design around a lot. It’s become shorthand for collaboration, participation, even goodwill — a prefix that promises inclusion. But what does that little “co-” really mean? In this episode, we...
Episode #10
<p>In this episode of It Depends, Matt and Tenille sit down with Todd Miller, Associate Director of Resilience at Auckland University of Technology (AUT) and creator of the Complex Adaptive Disaster and Emergency...
Episode #9
<p>In this episode of The It Depends Podcast, Matt and Tenille sit down with Associate Professor Emily Gates from Boston College. Emily is an evaluator, educator, and systems thinker whose work bridges theory and...
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