
Episode #13
S3 E13, Practical engagement: making climate impact meaningful, Phil Korbel, Carbon Literacy Project
In this episode, Phil Korbel, co-founder of the Carbon Literacy Project, talks to Ned Wells and Ruth Davis about his remarkable journey from BBC radio producer to climate action pioneer, and how a simple idea in Manchester grew into a global movement. Phil shares how a life-changing tandem cycle ride from Sydney to the UK sparked a lifelong commitment to sustainable development and community engagement. After founding a charity focused on community radio and social inclusion, Phil became increasingly focused on climate change, driven in part by parenthood and a desire to answer an anticipated question from his daughters: ‘What did you do to stop this blooming mess?’ With that question as a spur, Phil was led to create the Carbon Literacy Project. Working on Manchester’s first Climate Action Plan, he recognised a critical gap: while organisations were discussing technologies and policies, few were thinking about how to engage people. The result was Carbon Literacy, a practical, action-focused framework that equips people with the knowledge and confidence to take meaningful climate action in their workplace and beyond. Since launching 13 years ago, the Carbon Literacy Project has certified more than 164,000 people across over 50 countries, spanning every continent, including Antarctica. Phil explains how the organisation’s adaptable model enables businesses, public sector organisations, educational institutions and communities to develop training tailored to their own context and challenges. The conversation in this episode explores the business case for carbon literacy, the importance of workplace engagement, how climate action can reduce costs and attract talent, and why effective communication must focus on relevance rather than guilt. Phil also discusses the organisation’s ambitious goal of reaching one million carbon literate citizens by 2030 and the exciting opportunities ahead for international growth. Visit Carbon Literacy Project at: https://carbonliteracy.com/ Connect with Phil at: https://www.linkedin.com/in/phil-korbel/






