Success is easy to celebrate. The journey behind it is where the real lessons are found. The Gregory Vetter Podcast features candid conversations with entrepreneurs, leaders, creators, athletes, and individuals who have built extraordinary lives not by avoiding adversity, but by learning from it. Each episode explores the defining moments, difficult decisions, setbacks, victories, and principles that shape successful people long before anyone sees the results. This isn't about polished success stories. It's about honest conversations that challenge the way we think about leadership, business, purpose, family, resilience, and what it truly means to build a meaningful life. Whether you're building a company, leading a team, pursuing a dream, or simply striving to become a better version of yourself, you'll discover practical wisdom and authentic stories that inspire lasting growth. Because behind every success is a story worth telling. <
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Episode #52
The Mindset That Took Edose Ibadin From Failure to the Olympics
Sep 30, 20261h 31m
Send us Fan Mail Edose Ibadin missed the Tokyo Olympics. After more than a decade of training, improving and chasing the highest level of his sport, the thing he feared finally happened. He failed. And strangely enough, that failure gave him something he didn't have before. Freedom. Edose is an 800-meter Olympian for Team Nigeria and a mindset coach, but what interested me most about his story wasn't that he eventually made the Olympics. It was how long he had to keep believing before there was enough evidence to prove that belief was justified. Coming out of high school, he wasn't the best runner in the country. His progress wasn't some overnight explosion. It was a slow build. He kept getting better. He kept showing up. And when he finally experienced the failure he'd spent years trying to avoid, he realized something important: he survived it. That changed the way he chased success. In this conversation, Maurice, Edose and I talk about self-belief, discipline, fear of failure, the way athletes speak to themselves, comparison, coaching, social media, success after sports and why some incredibly talented people never find out what they're truly capable of. We also get into something I think extends far beyond athletics. Staying in the game. We're surrounded by other people's progress now. Somebody is younger than you, faster than you, richer than you, further along than you or seemingly accomplishing in two years what you've spent ten years trying to do. It's incredibly easy to mistake someone else's timeline for evidence that yours isn't working. Edose's career challenges that idea. He talks about learning to respect his own ability instead of constantly measuring himself against everyone else's. About becoming his own biggest fan when nobody else was around to clap. About understanding that progress doesn't have to be dramatic to still be progress. And eventually, about turning the disappointment of missing Tokyo into part of what helped him reach Paris. There's a lesson in that whether you're trying to become an Olympian, build a company, raise a kid, create something meaningful or simply become better at what you do. Sometimes success isn't about knowing you'll win. It's having enough belief in yourself to stay around long enough to find out. Stay in the race. You don't know how good you can get. Support the show Visit My Website: https://www.gregoryvetter.com/ Podcast: https://youtube.com/@gregoryvetter?si=pMLS8CMW_tqaBFGi Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/glvetter?igsh=MW5rN2tqeWdreXJ1cA== TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@gregorylvetter?_r=1&_t=ZP-917lH2Ah5Tz Youtube Shorts: https://youtube.com/@gregoryvettershorts?si=Qg4bRQL4xmRl8cwQ My Substack: https://gregoryvetter.substack.com/ Purchase My Books Here: https://www.amazon.com/stores/Gregory-L.-Vetter/author/B0DSJRHJQS?ref=ap_rdr&shoppingPortalEnabled=true&ccs_id=a24a52fb-666f-43a2-9eeb-40b8266ae702
Is School Preparing Kids for the Real World? | Rethinking Education
Sep 23, 202657 min
Send us Fan Mail I graduated from college with an accounting textbook still wrapped in plastic. Years later, I started a business and suddenly realized I needed to understand accounting. So I went into my basement, found that same book, tore the plastic off and started reading. And for the first time, the information actually mattered. That's the problem I have with the way we think about education. We spend years teaching kids information and far less time putting them in situations where they have to figure out why that information matters. Maurice asked me a simple question on this episode: Are schools preparing kids for the real world? My answer was a pretty hard no. If I could rebuild education, I'd make it look a lot more like life. Give students real problems. Make math part of solving something that actually matters. Let history lead into leadership, economics, logistics, debate and human behavior. Put young people around people who actually do things and let them observe, question and participate. Because eventually the test isn't going to be multiple choice. It's going to be an employee who doesn't show up. A customer who's pissed off. A business that's running out of money. A flat tire. A job that needs to get done. A decision you have to make without knowing the answer. Maurice and I get into college, trades, public and private schools, teachers, parenting, problem-solving, curiosity, hiring, AI and what happens when technology can increasingly do the intellectual work we've spent generations training people to do. I'm not arguing that degrees don't matter. Some absolutely do. I'm questioning what we're actually trying to produce. Because after years of building companies and hiring people, I've learned that the person with the most impressive résumé isn't necessarily the person I want beside me when everything goes wrong. Give me someone who can think. Someone who can work with people. Someone willing to get their hands dirty. Someone who can realize they're wrong, change direction and keep solving the problem. Education shouldn't just prepare you to know the answer. It should prepare you for the moment when nobody knows the answer. Support the show Visit My Website: https://www.gregoryvetter.com/ Podcast: https://youtube.com/@gregoryvetter?si=pMLS8CMW_tqaBFGi Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/glvetter?igsh=MW5rN2tqeWdreXJ1cA== TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@gregorylvetter?_r=1&_t=ZP-917lH2Ah5Tz Youtube Shorts: https://youtube.com/@gregoryvettershorts?si=Qg4bRQL4xmRl8cwQ My Substack: https://gregoryvetter.substack.com/ Purchase My Books Here: https://www.amazon.com/stores/Gregory-L.-Vetter/author/B0DSJRHJQS?ref=ap_rdr&shoppingPortalEnabled=true&ccs_id=a24a52fb-666f-43a2-9eeb-40b8266ae702
What Fathers Get Wrong About Raising Kids | Gregory Vetter & His Dad
Sep 9, 20261h 13m
Send us Fan Mail My father has always been the most interesting man I know. You can bring up almost any subject and somehow discover he's lived an entire chapter of his life you never knew existed. So instead of inviting Steve Vetter onto the podcast with one carefully planned topic, Maurice put questions into a hat and we let the conversation go wherever it went. The first question was: What did I get wrong as a father? That led us somewhere I didn't expect. We talked about parents who decide who their children are supposed to become before the child ever gets the opportunity to figure it out themselves. Sports. School. Careers. Expectations. The pressure children feel to carry on a family identity that may not actually belong to them. My dad took a different approach with me and my brothers. He exposed us to things, asked questions, gave us room to fail and tried—sometimes successfully, sometimes not—to resist the temptation to control the outcome. I've carried a lot of that into raising my own children. We talk about why I don't criticize my kids immediately after games, why different children require completely different kinds of feedback, the responsibility I felt growing up as the oldest of three brothers, standing up for people who couldn't always stand up for themselves, and what my father wishes he had understood earlier about how quickly children grow up. And then somehow we ended up talking about trees. My dad explained something he learned building furniture. Two pieces of the same wood can behave completely differently depending on where and how the tree grew. Some grew with plenty of light and water. Others spent their lives fighting for both. The grain remembers. If you're going to work with the wood, you have to understand what you're working with. Children aren't much different. Domination doesn't work very well. You have to know who you're working with. Maybe that's true of parenting. Maybe it's true of leadership. Maybe it's true of every relationship that matters. You can't live your children's lives for them. You can be present. You can guide them. You can teach them. You can give them strength. And then eventually, you have to give them enough room to become themselves. Support the show Visit My Website: https://www.gregoryvetter.com/ Podcast: https://youtube.com/@gregoryvetter?si=pMLS8CMW_tqaBFGi Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/glvetter?igsh=MW5rN2tqeWdreXJ1cA== TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@gregorylvetter?_r=1&_t=ZP-917lH2Ah5Tz Youtube Shorts: https://youtube.com/@gregoryvettershorts?si=Qg4bRQL4xmRl8cwQ My Substack: https://gregoryvetter.substack.com/ Purchase My Books Here: https://www.amazon.com/stores/Gregory-L.-Vetter/author/B0DSJRHJQS?ref=ap_rdr&shoppingPortalEnabled=true&ccs_id=a24a52fb-666f-43a2-9eeb-40b8266ae702
Hope Is Not a Strategy: Why Leaders Have to Plan for Reality
Sep 2, 202630 min
Send us Fan Mail I bought my first dog in elementary school after my parents told me we weren't getting one. The puppy cost $350. I didn't have $350. So I started shoveling snow, salting driveways, babysitting and chopping wood until I had the money. Then I bought the dog anyway. His name was Sandy. That story came up while Maurice and I were talking about the things we wanted growing up and the little hustles we created to get them. We didn't call it entrepreneurship. We wanted something, so we figured out what we could do about it. That eventually led us to a bigger question: When does hope help you and when does it start getting in the way? Hope matters. It gives you the fire to pursue something you can't see yet. But at some point, hope has to be backed by action, preparation and a willingness to deal with reality. My philosophy became pretty simple: Prepare for the worst. Plan for reality. Pray for the best. But don't budget for it. Maurice and I talk about early hustle, work ethic, adversity, learning to celebrate wins, and what constantly preparing for the next problem can do to you over time. Hope gives you something to believe in. But hope is not a strategy. Support the show Visit My Website: https://www.gregoryvetter.com/ Podcast: https://youtube.com/@gregoryvetter?si=pMLS8CMW_tqaBFGi Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/glvetter?igsh=MW5rN2tqeWdreXJ1cA== TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@gregorylvetter?_r=1&_t=ZP-917lH2Ah5Tz Youtube Shorts: https://youtube.com/@gregoryvettershorts?si=Qg4bRQL4xmRl8cwQ My Substack: https://gregoryvetter.substack.com/ Purchase My Books Here: https://www.amazon.com/stores/Gregory-L.-Vetter/author/B0DSJRHJQS?ref=ap_rdr&shoppingPortalEnabled=true&ccs_id=a24a52fb-666f-43a2-9eeb-40b8266ae702
Send us Fan Mail Everybody has an image in their head of what making their first million dollars looks like. A big check. A bank account with seven figures sitting in it. Some moment where you finally feel like you've made it. That's usually not how it happens. In this episode of The Gregory Vetter Podcast , Moe and I get into what building your first million actually looks like. From starting a business with almost nothing to eventually creating real wealth and financial independence. And a lot of it has less to do with money than you might think. I talk about the millions of dollars I've lost making emotional business decisions. Keeping people too long because I cared about them. Trying to muscle through problems that should have been dealt with immediately. Spending money because I believed I could somehow force the outcome I wanted. Those decisions felt right in the moment. They were also expensive. We get into why the first $100,000 may actually be harder than the first million, how a business grows once you've proven people actually want what you're selling, and why making more money doesn't necessarily mean you should start looking richer. There's also a larger conversation here about opportunity. You don't necessarily need an Ivy League degree, a glamorous career, or a startup that gets featured in Forbes to become financially independent. There are electricians, welders, contractors, small-business owners, and people working regular jobs who quietly build wealth every day. The problem is that we've allowed social media to convince us that wealth is supposed to look a certain way. The car. The watch. The clothes. The house. But spending money to convince strangers you're successful can keep you from actually becoming successful. Building wealth is slower and less glamorous than the internet makes it look. It requires patience, discipline, good decisions, and eventually learning to separate emotion from money. Your first million probably won't arrive the way you imagine it. And when it does, the more important question might be whether you've learned enough along the way to know what to do with it. Support the show Visit My Website: https://www.gregoryvetter.com/ Podcast: https://youtube.com/@gregoryvetter?si=pMLS8CMW_tqaBFGi Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/glvetter?igsh=MW5rN2tqeWdreXJ1cA== TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@gregorylvetter?_r=1&_t=ZP-917lH2Ah5Tz Youtube Shorts: https://youtube.com/@gregoryvettershorts?si=Qg4bRQL4xmRl8cwQ My Substack: https://gregoryvetter.substack.com/ Purchase My Books Here: https://www.amazon.com/stores/Gregory-L.-Vetter/author/B0DSJRHJQS?ref=ap_rdr&shoppingPortalEnabled=true&ccs_id=a24a52fb-666f-43a2-9eeb-40b8266ae702
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