The Edward Show

Daily SEO advice, hacks, and interviews with some of the top voices in search engine optimization, as well as sit-downs with many undiscovered talents.

The Edward Show is a business podcast hosted by Edward Sturm, with 1,000 episodes on record and a Required Pod Score of 80.

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  Episode #1187

  Google Just Changed Its AI Content Guidelines (Unreviewed AI Is Now a Liability)

  Oct 4, 202613 minS1

  E1187: Google changed its guidance on AI-generated content on October 1, and the new language makes one thing very clear: publishing unchecked AI content creates real SEO risk. Google now explicitly says publishers must manually fact-check and review AI-generated content for accuracy and trustworthiness before publishing. That review doesn't stop with the body copy. Google says it also applies to page titles, meta descriptions, structured data, and image alt text. I break down exactly what Google changed, what it means for SEOs using AI at scale, and how I use AI without handing an entire page over to an LLM. We cover: - Google's new October 1 guidance on AI-generated content - Why Google now explicitly calls for manual fact-checking - Why hallucinations give Google another reason to distrust scaled AI pages - Why scaled AI content becomes especially risky when nobody reviews it - Google's stance on AI content vs. AI spam - Why Google does not ban AI-generated content - How Google evaluates low-quality automated content - Why useful, original AI-assisted content still ranks - What Google says about AI disclosures and author bylines - Why I recommend using AI as a writing assistant instead of one-shotting entire SEO pages - How one-shot AI pages frequently miss search intent - How unchecked AI content often creates weak above-the-fold experiences - How bad user signals build when pages fail to satisfy searchers - How Google can lose faith in an entire website after enough weak pages - Why images and video matter when you use AI-generated text - How AI produces bloated pages that hurt conversions - How cutting copy, navigation, and distractions increases conversions - Why AI-detected content may also get excluded from AI training data The biggest takeaway: AI content itself is not the problem. Google explicitly says automation and AI generation are not automatically spam. The problem starts when publishers use AI to generate large amounts of content without adding value, reviewing the output, correcting inaccuracies, or making sure the page satisfies search intent. My approach remains the same: use AI as a writing assistant. Guide it closely. Edit aggressively. Fact-check everything. Add original thought, images, video, examples, and real experience. Do not give an LLM a keyword and blindly publish whatever comes back. I also explain why simply proofreading a fully AI-written page still falls short. Once the AI decides the structure, arguments, and interpretation of search intent, you are already anchored to its thinking. ⭐️ Google Search's guidance on using generative AI content on your website - https://developers.google.com/search/docs/fundamentals/using-gen-ai-content ⭐️ Google's FAQ - https://developers.google.com/search/blog/2023/02/google-search-and-ai-content ⭐️ How to Humanize AI Content - https://edwardsturm.com/articles/humanize-chatgpt-content/ ⭐️ How to Double Your Conversions by Doing Less (10 Before-and-After Examples) - https://edwardsturm.com/articles/conversion-rate-optimisation-strategy-simplify-landing-pages/ ⭐️ Ep 1083 - Google's New AI Spam Detector Could Wipe Out Entire SEO Networks - https://youtu.be/I78IQS99EwU ⭐️ Ep 1153 - Google Can Detect Your AI Content. Here's What Happens Next. - https://youtu.be/G0qcfknUCcU ⭐️ Ep 1166 - Google Can Lose Faith In Your Website (Here's How To Get It Back) - https://youtu.be/Q4cB34UticI Compact Keywords - My SEO Course - Get paying customers through SEO - Clear step-by-step video breakdowns - SEO templates to be copied and adapted for your products and services: https://compactkeywords.com/ 00:00 AI Content Warning 00:24 Google AI Guidance Overview 01:14 Quality Raters And AI 02:03 October 1 Fact Check Update 02:51 Scaled AI Content Risks 03:29 Give Users Context 04:21 FAQ What Counts As Spam 05:44 Detection And EEAT Basics 06:50 Authorship And Disclosures 07:42 Practical AI SEO Workflow 09:38 Humanize With Media 10:26 Trim Fluff Boost Conversions 11:20 AI Detection Consequences 13:00 Episode Outro The Edward Show. Your daily search engine optimization podcast: https://edwardsturm.com/the-edward-show/ #searchengineoptimization #seo #digitalmarketing #webdevelopment

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  Episode #1185

  Google's September 2026 Spam Update Phase 2 Hits (And Reddit's AI Translations Are Winning Again)

  Oct 2, 202617 minS1

  E1185: Google's September 2026 spam update just entered what looks like phase two. Google launched the update on September 24. The first major wave hit around September 25-27. Things cooled down, then volatility exploded again on September 30. This rollout looks very different from Google's recent spam updates. Instead of finishing in roughly two days, Google says this one will run for around two weeks, which means we're seeing separate waves of sites drop, recover, and move throughout the rollout. I break down what changed during the September 30 wave, what types of sites are getting hit, why some previously crushed sites are suddenly recovering, and one of the strangest winners so far: Reddit's AI-translated pages. Reddit's AI translations surged across countries including Italy, Germany, Brazil, and France. These pages previously dropped hard during Google's May 2026 core update and June 2026 spam update, but they're climbing again. Reddit itself has now reached an all-time high in estimated organic search traffic. I also cover: - Why September 30 looks like the second major phase of the spam update - Why Google's unusually long two-week rollout matters - Sites recovering after previous spam updates - One recovery that jumped from nearly zero to roughly 8,000 Google clicks per day - Reddit AI translations returning to Google Search - Why Reddit's AI-translated UGC performs differently from mass-translated blog content - The types of pages taking the hardest hits - Highly templated service pages - Programmatic SEO pages with little unique value - Thoughtless AI-generated content - Doorway pages that swap locations while keeping almost everything else identical - A site with 143 templated county service pages getting hit - Why Google keeps targeting large-scale page generation that fails to satisfy specific search intent - Why normal white-hat sites are still seeing volatility during the rollout - Amazon Spain reportedly losing significant estimated organic traffic during the update - Why Ahrefs, Semrush, and other rank trackers are showing unreliable SERP data right now - Google's latest anti-scraping changes and the problems they're creating for SEO tools - Why Google Search Console matters more than third-party rank tracking during this period - What I'm doing while the update continues rolling out The biggest pattern remains clear: Google keeps going after scaled pages that exist mainly because someone found a template and multiplied it across hundreds or thousands of keywords. Changing a city, county, product, or keyword while leaving almost everything else the same does not create a page specifically for that searcher. But this update isn't only producing losses. Sites hit by previous spam updates are also seeing major recoveries. Google appears to be reevaluating sites as its spam systems update, meaning work done after an earlier hit is showing up during later algorithm updates. My advice during the rollout remains simple: don't panic and make massive changes while Google is still moving everything around. Instead, look closely at the pages that actually make you money. Ask whether those pages: - Satisfy search intent immediately - Give the searcher what they came for above the fold - Remove unnecessary distractions - Make the main action obvious - Contain information created specifically for that query rather than copied from a template Google's September spam update still has time left to run. September 30 looks like the second major wave, and we'll see whether another phase hits before the rollout finishes. ⭐️ SE Roundtable: Phase Two of the Google September 2026 Spam Update Hits - https://www.seroundtable.com/google-september-2026-spam-update-two-42209.html ⭐️ Glenn Gabe on - https://x.com/glenngabe/status/2105638422102561193 ⭐️ Lily Ray on - https://x.com/lilyraynyc/status/2105298995543425445 ⭐️ Charles Floate on - https://x.com/Charles_SEO/status/2104504430683197518 ⭐️ How to Double Your Conversions by Doing Less (10 Before-and-After Examples) - https://edwardsturm.com/articles/conversion-rate-optimisation-strategy-simplify-landing-pages/ Compact Keywords - My SEO Course - Get paying customers through SEO - Clear step-by-step video breakdowns - SEO templates to be copied and adapted for your products and services: https://compactkeywords.com/ 00:00 Spam Update Phase Two 00:19 Early Impact Timeline 01:10 What We Know So Far 01:47 Reddit Translations Return 03:06 Recovery Surges Explained 05:04 Why Reddit Still Wins 06:56 What Content Got Hit 08:38 Rank Trackers Breaking 11:15 Community Reactions 12:42 What To Do Now 13:34 Conversion Cleanup Tips 16:03 Wrap Up The Edward Show. Your daily search engine optimization podcast: https://edwardsturm.com/the-edward-show/ #searchengineoptimization #seo #googlespamupdate #performancemarketing

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  Episode #1184

  Jacky Chou: Clone Indie Hacker Apps, Then Outrank Them on Google

  Sep 30, 20261h 21mS1

  E1184: Jacky Chou and David Quaid sit down for a wide-ranging conversation about where SEO still makes money in 2026, what Jacky would build today, and why he thinks most indie hackers leave huge opportunities on the table. Jacky's opening argument is simple: find SaaS products already making money, build a competing product, then use SEO and paid distribution to beat founders who know how to code but do not know how to market. From there, the conversation goes deep into SaaS, affiliate SEO, parasite SEO, Reddit, ChatGPT, listicles, backlinks, partial-match domains, offsite SEO, and what Jacky would do if he had to start from zero again. In this episode: - Why Jacky says SaaS is the biggest SEO opportunity right now - How he finds indie hacker apps with proven revenue, rebuilds the idea, and attacks the search demand around it - Why marketers now have an advantage when AI makes software much easier to build - How Jacky replaced a $600/month rank tracker with his own tool and sold it as a lifetime deal - Why he launches constantly instead of betting everything on one business - How some of his older income streams fell roughly 90%, and why that changed how he thinks about diversification - Why he believes traditional SEO display-ad sites have largely disappeared while affiliate SEO still works - Why "best X" and other buyer-intent searches still produce revenue even with AI Overviews - Why Jacky barely checks Google Search Console unless revenue drops - How he validates new products with paid ads instead of waiting for SEO - Why he thinks many AI SEO tools fail because their creators do not actually understand SEO - Why he says Reddit spam became much harder, and why buying established subreddits entered the playbook - How Jacky thinks Google's preference for high-authority sites creates more opportunities for parasite SEO - Why he believes listicles remain one of the strongest ways to influence what ChatGPT cites and recommends - Why he thinks ChatGPT and Google are becoming less dependent on the same underlying results - Why Jacky prefers partial-match domains and puts more energy into offsite SEO than onsite SEO - How David thinks about expired domains, backlinks, clicks, and authority - Why both of them think SEOs overcomplicate Google - What Jacky would do if he had to start over today - How he took a new iOS app from $0 to about $1,000/month in its first month through search - Why Jacky says the fastest way to learn SEO is to stop reading, start testing, and keep launching Jacky and David also get into the economics behind SEO software, Meta retargeting, programmatic SEO, site reputation abuse, Forbes, buyer's guides, and why execution beats waiting for the perfect idea. If you work in SEO, build software, run affiliate sites, or want to use search to launch your own products, this episode gives you a direct look at how Jacky Chou and David Quaid approach SEO in 2026. ⭐️ Jacky Chou on - https://x.com/indexsy ⭐️ Jack Chou's website - https://jackychou.com/ ⭐️ Jacky Chou on YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/@indexsy ⭐️ David Quaid on - https://x.com/DavidGQuaid ⭐️ David Quaid on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/davidquaid/ ⭐️ David Quaid on YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/@DavidQuaid ⭐️ David Quaid's agency - https://primaryposition.com/ Compact Keywords - My SEO Course - Get paying customers through SEO - Clear step-by-step video breakdowns - SEO templates to be copied and adapted for your products and services: https://compactkeywords.com/ 00:00 Jackie and David Join 01:17 Biggest SEO Opportunity SaaS 05:35 Affiliate and Ads Reality 08:27 From Consulting to SaaS 13:08 AI Tools and Indie Hackers 17:28 Sprint Before AI Loop 24:15 Launch Fast and Iterate 26:18 Replacing Tools and Paid Ads 32:05 Google Spam and Parasites 34:43 Reddit Spam and Sub Markets 39:46 Buying Subreddits Pricing 42:39 Build vs Buy Communities 43:20 Buyer Guides vs Listicles 44:38 LLMs Splitting from Google 45:56 Spamming ChatGPT Citations 47:29 Forbes and Reputation Abuse 49:59 Entrepreneur Paths for Engineers 52:17 SEO Learn by Doing 54:22 Modern SEO Frameworks 56:12 Parasite SEO and Offsite Focus 01:00:22 Indexers and User Signals 01:04:39 Parasite Deals and Economics 01:09:07 Building Multiple Brands 01:13:04 Viral Growth and Fraud 01:19:04 Nord Tactic and Wrap Up The Edward Show. Your daily search engine optimization podcast: https://edwardsturm.com/the-edward-show/ #searchengineoptimization #seo #indiehackers #buildinpublic

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  Episode #1183

  ChatGPT Is Building Its Own Search Index. Here's How to Rank in It

  Sep 29, 20261h 2mS1

  E1183: ChatGPT is building more of its own search index, and that changes where SEO goes next. David G. Quaid joins me to break down what OpenAI appears to be doing, how its cached web content starts to function like an index, and what SEOs need to understand if ChatGPT relies less on Google and Bing over time. OpenAI has already discussed a long-term goal of serving most search traffic from its own first-party index. David explains why the change may already be happening: repeatedly fetching the same pages in real time costs too much, takes too long, and creates unnecessary dependence on traditional search engines. We get into: - Why ChatGPT's cache increasingly resembles its own search index - OpenAI's stated goal of serving more searches from first-party indexed content - Why the same small group of pages can receive tens of thousands of AI crawl requests - How Common Crawl fits into ChatGPT's search infrastructure - Why ranking #1 in Google does not automatically mean more visibility in ChatGPT - How LLMs use query fan-out to retrieve multiple documents - Why consensus across multiple sources matters more than being position #1 - How OpenAI could use Google for occasional quality checks instead of every search - Why OpenAI does not need to recreate Google's exact ranking order - Why Google's decades of spam-fighting experience still give it an advantage - How quickly OpenAI could copy major search-engine concepts once SEOs expose weaknesses - Why exact-match domains and separate satellite sites become interesting in AI search - How fabricated awards, press releases, and repeated claims across multiple websites influence AI answers - What the King of AEO experiments reveal about how easily AI systems accept manufactured consensus - Why targeting less competitive query fan-outs creates more opportunities - Why David still says doing strong Google SEO gives you the best foundation for AI visibility We also discuss another major change happening in SEO: traditional rank tracking is getting less reliable. Google's personalization and recent search changes increasingly create situations where rank trackers report positions that do not match what users actually see. David and I discuss why Google Search Console may become the real source of truth and why more SEOs may eventually build their own tracking systems around the Search Console API. Other topics include: - Whether traditional SERP trackers face an existential problem - Why impressions can fall while clicks stay flat - Google's increasing personalization of search results - Why newer SEOs suffer most when ranking data becomes less reliable - Why schema does not create authority simply because you declare an entity - Why Google's Knowledge Graph does not require schema to understand a person or brand - Why ChatGPT, Claude, Gemini, and Perplexity produce very different answers despite working from overlapping web information - Why Google Images also prefers source diversity instead of showing one domain repeatedly The biggest takeaway: even if ChatGPT builds its own index, the fundamentals do not suddenly disappear. It still needs to discover pages, decide which sources belong in its retrieval set, compare competing claims, and synthesize an answer. Optimize for Google and you land the most simultaneous high-value wins. ⭐️ David Quaid on - https://x.com/DavidGQuaid ⭐️ David Quaid on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/davidquaid/ ⭐️ David Quaid on YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/@DavidQuaid ⭐️ David Quaid's agency - https://primaryposition.com/ Compact Keywords - My SEO Course - Get paying customers through SEO - Clear step-by-step video breakdowns - SEO templates to be copied and adapted for your products and services: https://compactkeywords.com/ 00:00 LLMs Building Indexes 00:51 Crawl Inefficiency Signals 02:37 Caching Becomes Index 03:20 King Of AEO Experiments 05:24 Common Crawl Shift 07:42 OpenAI Index Evidence 10:00 Schema And Knowledge Graph 13:23 Authority Without Browser Data 18:50 SEO Spam And Digg Moment 21:35 Preparing For LLM Indexing 26:20 Rank Trackers Breaking 32:01 Flying Blind On ROI 35:01 Why This Episode 35:52 Guest Debate Fallout 36:15 LLMs Building Indexes 37:39 Why Reddit YouTube Drop 42:17 Caching Over Live Fetch 44:25 Consensus Not Ranking 46:11 Early AI Spam Loopholes 48:05 Google vs Gemini Output 48:56 Fake Awards Gray Hat 51:50 Calling Out GEO Grifters 55:23 SEO Agency Horror Story 59:19 Variance Across Sources 01:00:54 Wrap Up Next Episode The Edward Show. Your daily search engine optimization podcast: https://edwardsturm.com/the-edward-show/ #generativeengineoptimization #answerengineoptimization #searchengineoptimization #seo

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  Episode #1181

  6 Boring SEO Habits That Actually Grow Your Traffic

  Sep 28, 202611 minS1

  E1181: I break down six SEO habits that marketers and site owners use to grow traffic without chasing a new tactic every week. These came from a popular SEO Growth subreddit thread where people shared the habits that made the biggest difference for them. I go through the best responses, explain why they work, and show you how to take each one further. In this episode: - Export Google Search Console data every month and study what Google tells you. Look at which queries generate impressions, where your pages rank, which pages get clicks, and where the gaps are. - Separate keywords into covered and uncovered opportunities. Covered keywords tell you which existing pages deserve updates. Uncovered keywords tell you what new pages to create. This also reduces unnecessary overlap between pages targeting similar searches. - Refresh old content instead of constantly publishing new pages. Update outdated information, tighten search intent above the fold, remove fluff, improve what comes next, and add relevant queries your page already ranks for. - Build backlinks every single week. Consistent link acquisition compounds. Journalist outreach, partnerships, link outreach, and other repeatable methods beat doing one huge link-building push every six months. - Use Google Search Console to find queries you rank for but never intentionally targeted. If a page sits on page two for a relevant search, add a section or paragraph that directly addresses that query. Google already sees the page as relevant. Give it a stronger reason to rank higher. - Study search results constantly. When you search Google, look at why certain pages rank above others. When you use ChatGPT or Claude, study which sources they cite and why. Over time, patterns become obvious. I also cover: - Why informational content keeps losing clicks even when impressions stay strong - How to spot pages that need an update - Why broken links and fading pages deserve regular attention - Why giving companies free SEO recommendations sometimes turns into paid work - How partnerships create recurring backlink opportunities - Why learning directly from SERPs beats blindly trusting tool scores ⭐️ The Reddit Thread - https://www.reddit.com/r/seogrowth/comments/1wh0yvq/whats_one_seo_habit_that_has_made_the_biggest/ ⭐️ Ep 787 - The #1 SEO Hack: Why Content Refreshes Beat New Content - https://youtu.be/UKvGmqzIxg4 ⭐️ Ep 1104 - The 1-Hour SEO Update That Makes Your Best Pages Rank for More Keywords - https://youtu.be/GmsAuotHGso ⭐️ Ep 1160 - How To Get Free Backlinks in 2026 (Methods That Actually Work) - https://youtu.be/U-5VL9o9RGQ ⭐️ Ep 1173 - The Internal Linking Trick That Uses Topical Authority You Already Have - https://youtu.be/2dPc80Z_DZk ⭐️ AI SEO/GEO/AEO: How to Get Shown in LLMs in 2026 - https://edwardsturm.com/articles/ai-seo-geo-aeo-get-shown-llms-2026/ Compact Keywords - My SEO Course - Get paying customers through SEO - Clear step-by-step video breakdowns - SEO templates to be copied and adapted for your products and services: https://compactkeywords.com/ 00:00 Biggest SEO Habit 00:16 Monthly GSC Review 01:14 Covered vs Uncovered Keywords 01:45 Content Refresh Checklist 03:22 Weekly Backlink Outreach 04:40 Query Tweaks to Rank 05:27 Learn From Other Sites 07:37 Consistency and Internal Links 08:21 Partnership Link Exchanges 09:08 Wrap Up The Edward Show. Your daily search engine optimization podcast: https://edwardsturm.com/the-edward-show/ #searchengineoptimization #seo #digitalmarketing #performancemarketing

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