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The Co-Living Show

Hosted by Craig Curelop and Miller McSwain · business · EN-US · 340 episodes

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Co-living is one of the most misunderstood, and highest-potential, ​ strategies in residential real estate investing. Most investors hear the buzzwords, see the cash-flow claims, and immediately assume it’s either too risky, too operationally intense, or too complicated to scale. The truth is simpler: coliving work exceptionally well when built on systems, governed by operational clarity, and executed like a real business, not a side hustle. The Co-Living Show exists to make that clarity accessible for serious professionals who want smarter returns without gambling on guesswork. ​ ​ Hosted by BiggerPockets authors Craig Curelop and Miller McSwain, The Co-Living Show goes far beyond surface-level real estate content. This is the only real estate investing podcast dedicated exclusively to the economics, operations, regulations, and strategic frameworks that drive high-density co-living and shared housing at scale. Whether you’re new to the model or a high-earning, time-poor p

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What is The Co-Living Show about?

Co-living is one of the most misunderstood, and highest-potential, ​ strategies in residential real estate investing. Most investors hear the buzzwords, see the cash-flow claims, and immediately assume it’s either too risky, too operationally intense, or too complicated to scale.

Who hosts The Co-Living Show?

The Co-Living Show is hosted by Craig Curelop and Miller McSwain. The show has published 340 episodes to date.

What has The Co-Living Show covered recently?

Recent episodes include "EP 36 - How to Buy Real Estate with Creative Financing (Without Getting Burned)" (14 October 2026, 53 minutes), "EP 35 - How to Run Co-Living Properties From Halfway Around the World" (7 October 2026, 36 minutes), and "EP 34 - Build With the Exit in Mind: Co-Living Resale with Josh Stanton" (1 October 2026, 62 minutes).

How often does The Co-Living Show publish?

The Co-Living Show publishes roughly weekly, with episodes averaging 57 minutes across 340 episodes.

How hard is it to get booked on The Co-Living Show?

Booking probability for The Co-Living Show is 37%, and the host is rated Selective on guests. The Co-Living Show requires a Pod Score of 80 or higher. The Co-Living Show's contact route on record: verified email.

Who should pitch The Co-Living Show?

The strongest fits for The Co-Living Show are Landlords & Property Leasing and Property Management & Appraisal. The Co-Living Show has a business audience.

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Craig Curelop and Miller McSwain hosts The Co-Living Show, a business show with 340 episodes published.

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  • Episode #36

    EP 36 - How to Buy Real Estate with Creative Financing (Without Getting Burned)

    Oct 14, 202653 minS1

    What if you could buy a rental property with a 3% interest rate in today's market? Creative financing can make that possible, but one poorly structured deal could cost you thousands. In this episode of The Co-Living...

  • Episode #35

    EP 35 - How to Run Co-Living Properties From Halfway Around the World

    Oct 7, 202636 minS1

    What does it actually take to run co-living properties when you live halfway around the world? In this episode of The Co-Living Show, Miller McSwain and Craig Curelop sit down with Oren Kachel, an investor based in...

  • Episode #34

    EP 34 - Build With the Exit in Mind: Co-Living Resale with Josh Stanton

    Oct 1, 20261h 2mS1

    Build With the Exit in Mind: Co-Living Resale with Josh Stanton Most co-living investors spend a lot of time thinking about how to buy a property, renovate it, fill the rooms, and maximize cash flow. But what happens...

  • Episode #32

    EP 32 - From House Hacker to 56 Rooms: How Networking Built Yoni Kaszynski’s Co-Living Business

    Sep 16, 202651 minS1

    Yoni Kaszynski is back on The Co-Living Show nearly a year after his first appearance — and a lot has changed. What started with a house hack has grown into a 56-room co-living operation across properties he owns and...

  • Episode #31

    EP 31 - How to Negotiate Real Estate Deals: The SCALE Framework

    Sep 10, 202643 minS1

    Negotiating a real estate deal isn’t just about getting the lowest price. In this solo episode of The Co-Living Show, Miller McSwain and Craig Curelop break down the SCALE Framework , the negotiation process they use to...

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  • Episode #30

    EP 30 - How We Negotiate Real Estate Deals to Save Five Figures

    Sep 3, 202655 minS1

    Most investors focus almost entirely on purchase price when negotiating a real estate deal. But price is only one piece of the offer. In this episode of The Co-Living Show , Miller McSwain and Craig Curelop break down...

  • Episode #29

    EP 29 - The 9-Point Due Diligence Checklist That Has Saved Us Thousands

    Aug 26, 202652 minS1

    A co-living property can look like a great deal on paper, but one overlooked sewer, structural, zoning, or insurance issue could cost you thousands after closing. In this episode, Miller McSwain and Craig Curelop break...

  • Episode #28

    EP 28 - Inside the Country's Largest Co-Living Operation

    Aug 20, 202657 minS1

    How do you scale a co-living company from a small operation to nearly 4,000 units across major U.S. cities? In this episode, Miller and Craig sit down with Sergii Starostin, co-founder and CEO of Outpost Club, to...

  • Episode #27

    EP 27 - The AI-Powered Co-Living Owner: Investing From 800 Miles Away

    Aug 13, 202653 minS1

    Can AI help you become a more informed co-living owner without taking over your property manager’s job? In this episode of The Co-Living Show, Miller McSwain and Craig Curelop sit down with Tanya Zorov, a co-living...

  • Episode #26

    Ep 26 - Co-Living Arbitrage: The Low-Capital Way to Scale

    Aug 6, 202654 minS1

    Can you scale a co-living business without buying every property? In this episode, Miller and Craig are joined by Dave Edwards , founder of CoLiving Operations, for a detailed breakdown of co-living arbitrage. Instead...

  • Episode #25

    EP 25 - 8 Things We Look for Before Buying a Co-Living Property

    Jul 30, 202647 minS1

    Not every large house is a good co-living investment. In this solo episode, Miller McSwain and Craig Curelop break down the eight factors they evaluate before buying a property for co-living. Drawing from their...

  • Episode #24

    EP 24 - Building a Co-Living Portfolio While Traveling the World

    Jul 23, 20261h 5mS1

    What if your real estate portfolio could support your lifestyle instead of controlling it? In this episode of The Co-Living Show, Craig Curelop and Miller McSwain sit down with Eric Lafon to break down how he is using...

  • Episode #23

    EP 23 - The Truth About Co-Living Laws Every Investor Needs to Know

    Jul 16, 20261h 6mS1

    Most investors focus on finding deals. Very few think about changing the laws that determine whether those deals are even possible. In this episode, Craig Curelop and Miller McSwain are joined by legislative attorney...

  • Episode #22

    EP 22 - How We Took a Co-Living Portfolio From 50% to 90% Occupancy

    Jul 8, 202655 minS1

    Craig Curelop and Miller McSwain sit down for a solo episode of The Co-Living Show to unpack how they took a struggling co-living portfolio from around 50% occupancy to 90% occupancy in just a few months. This was not a...

  • Episode #21

    EP 21 - How Furnished Finder Is Opening the Door for Co-Living Investors

    Jul 1, 20261h 5mS1

    In this episode of The Co-Living Show, Craig Curelop and Miller McSwain interview Jeff Hurst, CEO of Furnished Finder, about the growing connection between mid-term rentals, furnished room rentals, and co-living. Jeff...

  • Episode #20

    EP 20 - How to Buy Off-Market Co-Living Deals (Seller Financing Explained)

    Jun 24, 20261h 4mS1

    Off-market deals are where the deeper discounts live, and in this episode, Craig and Miller bring on Robbie Faithe to show you exactly how to find and structure them. Robbie is an Albuquerque investor, broker, and...

  • Episode #19

    EP 19 - Airbnb to Co-Living Conversion: Why These Arizona Flippers Made the Switch

    Jun 18, 20261h 6mS1

    What happens when two people with 26 years and 2,500+ flips under their belt discover co-living? For Brian and Gina Kingdeski, it meant ditching a struggling Arizona Airbnb portfolio and going all-in on building...

  • Episode #18

    EP 18 - From 65% to 95%: How Pascal Wagner Turned Around a Failing Co-Living Portfolio

    Jun 11, 20261h 8mS1

    Pascal Wagner bought 12 properties in two years, and then his occupancy dropped to 65%. In this episode, he shares how he booked a one-way ticket to Atlanta, fixed the bleeding, and rebuilt his portfolio into a 104-room...

  • Episode #17

    EP 17 - From College Football to Phoenix's #1 Co-Living Property Manager

    Jun 4, 20261h 9mS1

    <p>Corey Enman runs the largest co-living property management company in Phoenix — 40+ houses and 100+ rooms — and in this episode he gets tactical about exactly how he does it. This is a pen-and-paper one: the specific...

  • Episode #16

    EP 16 - Inside PadSplit: A Host Advisor Reveals What Actually Works

    May 27, 202656 minS1

    <p>Most of the co-living world runs on PadSplit — but Craig and Miller don't operate on it themselves. So they invited a PadSplit insider to explain exactly how it works.</p><p>Suzanne Vetillart, a Host Advisor at...

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