
The Art of SBA Lending


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Hosted by Ray Drew · business · EN · 197 episodes
A podcast for SBA Lenders
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Signup to Generate a PitchThe Art of SBA Lending is hosted by Ray Drew. The show has published 197 episodes to date.
Recent episodes include "Signing Off: A Farewell Message from your Host, Ray Drew" (16 December 2025, 2 minutes), "Final Episode: Revisiting My Roots (MCC Reunion) | Ep. 191" (13 November 2025, 47 minutes), and "The Chip Mahan Interview: CEO of Live Oak Bank | Ep. 190" (30 October 2025, 46 minutes).
The Art of SBA Lending publishes roughly every two weeks, with episodes averaging 46 minutes across 197 episodes.
Booking probability for The Art of SBA Lending is 36%, and the host is rated Selective on guests. The Art of SBA Lending requires a Pod Score of 80 or higher. The Art of SBA Lending's contact route on record: verified email.
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Ray Drew hosts The Art of SBA Lending, a business show with 197 episodes published.
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The Art of SBA Lending

Episode #191
This week marks the finale of The Art of SBA Lending podcast , and Ray Drew brings it home by reuniting with his original mentors and colleagues from the era that shaped his career: the Mercantile Capital team. Listen...

Episode #190
This week on The Art of SBA Lending, we sit down with Live Oak Bank CEO and founder, Chip Mahan, to discuss the revolutionary ideas that transformed the SBA landscape. Chip Mahan, who started the bank in 2008, disrupted...

Episode #189
This week on The Art of SBA Lending, we go behind the scenes with Heidi Whitesell to unpack the leadership, culture, challenges, and ultimate wind-down of a successful SBA lending division. Ray Drew sits down with...

Episode #188
This week on The Art of SBA Lending, we explore the world of USDA Business & Industry (B&I) lending, often considered the "last frontier" of government-guaranteed small business finance. Host Ray Drew, who admits to...

Episode #187
This week on The Art of SBA Lending, we're doing something special: a Money Store reunion episode. The Money Store pioneered the Business Development Officer (BDO) model and revolutionized the SBA lending industry...

Episode #186
This week on The Art of SBA Lending, we're getting a unique look at the state of the SBA marketplace from the perspective of the loan broker. Host Ray Drew brings together a panel of top-producing SBA loan brokers whose...

Episode #185
This week on The Art of SBA Lending, we sit down with Everett Sands, a leader who successfully propelled Lendistry into the top tier of the nation's SBA 7(a) lenders. Everett explains his approach to SBA lending, which...

Episode #184
This week on The Art of SBA Lending, we're joined by Lukas Haffer, co-founder of Casca, to discuss how AI is set to revolutionize small business lending. With a unique background that includes building software for...

Episode #183
This week on The Art of SBA Lending, we're joined by Heather Endersen , a true veteran of the SBA world with a career spanning decades. Having managed SBA departments and pioneered business acquisition lending, Heather...

Episode #182
This week on The Art of SBA Lending, I'm sitting down with Diane Heyden to get her take on leadership, career shifts, and the evolving landscape of small business lending. Diane, a seasoned veteran who has worked as a...

Episode #181
This week on The Art of SBA Lending, Ray Drew sits down with David Tinsley of Lenders Cooperative to unravel the shifting landscape of SBA lending and the role of technology and LSPs in shaping its future. Recorded live...

Episode #180
This week on The Art of SBA Lending, I sit down with the incredible Alan Peterson , BDO from First Internet Bank. Alan isn't just closing deals; he's redefining what it means to be a top producer in SBA lending...

Episode #180
This week on The Art of SBA Lending, I sit down with the incredible Alan Peterson , BDO from First Internet Bank. Alan isn't just closing deals; he's redefining what it means to be a top producer in SBA lending...

Episode #179
This week on The Art of SBA Lending, we're sitting down with a true SBA powerhouse: Kirk Beeson, SBA Managing Director at Veritex Community Bank, and former Chief Credit Officer (and so much more!) at Fund-Ex Solutions...

Episode #178
This week on The Art of SBA Lending, we're confronting the hard truth: the traditional SBA lending model no longer works. Rising overhead, margin compression, and tighter audits have flipped the economics, and now...

Episode #177
This week on The Art of SBA Lending, we're diving headfirst into one of the most controversial topics in small business finance: Merchant Cash Advances (MCAs). Are they a necessary lifeline—or a dangerous trap? Ray Drew...

Episode #176
This week on The Art of SBA Lending, Ray is laying out his own list of top 10 priorities for the SBA, several of which might shock you. But hey, if the SBA wants change, let's give em change. Joined by Ray is a panel of...

Episode #175
This week on The Art of SBA Lending, we're tackling one of the hottest topics in the industry: the rising SBA default rates. With concerns mounting over repayment trends, economic conditions, and policy shifts, it's...

Episode #174
This week on The Art of SBA Lending, we're diving into the Twitter war of the century: Elon Musk vs. the SBA. It all started when Musk called the Small Business Administration the "Shady Business Administration" and...
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