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The Art of SBA Lending

Hosted by Ray Drew · business · EN · 197 episodes

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A podcast for SBA Lenders

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Who hosts The Art of SBA Lending?

The Art of SBA Lending is hosted by Ray Drew. The show has published 197 episodes to date.

What has The Art of SBA Lending covered recently?

Recent episodes include "Signing Off: A Farewell Message from your Host, Ray Drew" (16 December 2025, 2 minutes), "Final Episode: Revisiting My Roots (MCC Reunion) | Ep. 191" (13 November 2025, 47 minutes), and "The Chip Mahan Interview: CEO of Live Oak Bank | Ep. 190" (30 October 2025, 46 minutes).

How often does The Art of SBA Lending publish?

The Art of SBA Lending publishes roughly every two weeks, with episodes averaging 46 minutes across 197 episodes.

How hard is it to get booked on The Art of SBA Lending?

Booking probability for The Art of SBA Lending is 36%, and the host is rated Selective on guests. The Art of SBA Lending requires a Pod Score of 80 or higher. The Art of SBA Lending's contact route on record: verified email.

Who should pitch The Art of SBA Lending?

The strongest fits for The Art of SBA Lending are Banking & Credit Unions. The Art of SBA Lending has a business audience.

About the host

Ray Drew hosts The Art of SBA Lending, a business show with 197 episodes published.

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  • The Art of SBA Lending

    Signing Off: A Farewell Message from your Host, Ray Drew

    Dec 16, 20252 min
  • Episode #191

    Final Episode: Revisiting My Roots (MCC Reunion) | Ep. 191

    Nov 13, 202547 min

    This week marks the finale of The Art of SBA Lending podcast , and Ray Drew brings it home by reuniting with his original mentors and colleagues from the era that shaped his career: the Mercantile Capital team. Listen...

  • Episode #190

    The Chip Mahan Interview: CEO of Live Oak Bank | Ep. 190

    Oct 30, 202546 min

    This week on The Art of SBA Lending, we sit down with Live Oak Bank CEO and founder, Chip Mahan, to discuss the revolutionary ideas that transformed the SBA landscape. Chip Mahan, who started the bank in 2008, disrupted...

  • Episode #189

    Winding Down a Shop while Battling a Major Health Crisis feat. Heidi Whitesell | Ep. 189

    Oct 16, 202543 min

    This week on The Art of SBA Lending, we go behind the scenes with Heidi Whitesell to unpack the leadership, culture, challenges, and ultimate wind-down of a successful SBA lending division. Ray Drew sits down with...

  • Episode #188

    USDA Lending: The Last Frontier? feat. Jason Hoerr, Steve Small, & Charles Conoley| Ep. 188

    Oct 2, 202553 min

    This week on The Art of SBA Lending, we explore the world of USDA Business & Industry (B&I) lending, often considered the "last frontier" of government-guaranteed small business finance. Host Ray Drew, who admits to...

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  • Episode #187

    Money Store Reunion feat. Joe Weiner, John Handmaker, Sam Renta, & Vince Calicchia | Ep. 187

    Sep 25, 202554 min

    This week on The Art of SBA Lending, we're doing something special: a Money Store reunion episode. The Money Store pioneered the Business Development Officer (BDO) model and revolutionized the SBA lending industry...

  • Episode #186

    The Loan Broker Panel | Ep. 186

    Sep 18, 20251h 2m

    This week on The Art of SBA Lending, we're getting a unique look at the state of the SBA marketplace from the perspective of the loan broker. Host Ray Drew brings together a panel of top-producing SBA loan brokers whose...

  • Episode #185

    The Untold Story of Lendistry's Rise in 7(a) Lending feat. Everett Sands | Ep. 185

    Sep 4, 202548 min

    This week on The Art of SBA Lending, we sit down with Everett Sands, a leader who successfully propelled Lendistry into the top tier of the nation's SBA 7(a) lenders. Everett explains his approach to SBA lending, which...

  • Episode #184

    Casca Has Arrived (and Will Drastically Change How We Make SBA Loans) feat. Lukas Haffer | Ep. 184

    Aug 28, 202550 min

    This week on The Art of SBA Lending, we're joined by Lukas Haffer, co-founder of Casca, to discuss how AI is set to revolutionize small business lending. With a unique background that includes building software for...

  • Episode #183

    Quitting the Bank: Closing 100 Deals in 24 Months feat Heather Endresen | Ep. 183

    Aug 21, 202550 min

    This week on The Art of SBA Lending, we're joined by Heather Endersen , a true veteran of the SBA world with a career spanning decades. Having managed SBA departments and pioneered business acquisition lending, Heather...

  • Episode #182

    Lending with Heart: Sharing 30 Years of Lessons Learned feat. Diane Heyden | Ep. 182

    Aug 14, 202538 min

    This week on The Art of SBA Lending, I'm sitting down with Diane Heyden to get her take on leadership, career shifts, and the evolving landscape of small business lending. Diane, a seasoned veteran who has worked as a...

  • Episode #181

    A.I. Disruption: Time to Throw Out The Old Playbook ft. David Tinsley | Ep. 181

    Jun 12, 202545 min

    This week on The Art of SBA Lending, Ray Drew sits down with David Tinsley of Lenders Cooperative to unravel the shifting landscape of SBA lending and the role of technology and LSPs in shaping its future. Recorded live...

  • Episode #180

    On Track to Break $100 million feat. Alan Peterson | Ep. 180

    May 29, 202548 min

    This week on The Art of SBA Lending, I sit down with the incredible Alan Peterson , BDO from First Internet Bank. Alan isn't just closing deals; he's redefining what it means to be a top producer in SBA lending...

  • Episode #180

    On Track to Break $100 million feat. Alan Peterson | Ep. 180

    May 29, 202548 min

    This week on The Art of SBA Lending, I sit down with the incredible Alan Peterson , BDO from First Internet Bank. Alan isn't just closing deals; he's redefining what it means to be a top producer in SBA lending...

  • Episode #179

    Untold Stories: The Rise and Fall of an SBLC feat. Kirk Beason | Ep. 179

    May 15, 202543 min

    This week on The Art of SBA Lending, we're sitting down with a true SBA powerhouse: Kirk Beeson, SBA Managing Director at Veritex Community Bank, and former Chief Credit Officer (and so much more!) at Fund-Ex Solutions...

  • Episode #178

    The Model Has Changed: Rethinking SBA Operations ft. Mike Breckheimer, Brian Carlson & Chris Kwiatkowski | Ep. 178

    May 1, 202550 min

    This week on The Art of SBA Lending, we're confronting the hard truth: the traditional SBA lending model no longer works. Rising overhead, margin compression, and tighter audits have flipped the economics, and now...

  • Episode #177

    MCA Debate: Ryan Kroge and Joe Alam vs John Dicanio and Jerry Cocuzzo | Ep. 177

    Apr 17, 202539 min

    This week on The Art of SBA Lending, we're diving headfirst into one of the most controversial topics in small business finance: Merchant Cash Advances (MCAs). Are they a necessary lifeline—or a dangerous trap? Ray Drew...

  • Episode #176

    Ray's Top 10 Priorities for the SBA ft. Charles Green, Jeannie Yoder, and Shane Pierson | Ep. 176

    Apr 3, 202549 min

    This week on The Art of SBA Lending, Ray is laying out his own list of top 10 priorities for the SBA, several of which might shock you. But hey, if the SBA wants change, let's give em change. Joined by Ray is a panel of...

  • Episode #175

    Addressing the SBA Default Crisis ft. Jane Castro, Kay Anderson, and Mike Breckheimer | Ep. 175

    Mar 20, 202546 min

    This week on The Art of SBA Lending, we're tackling one of the hottest topics in the industry: the rising SBA default rates. With concerns mounting over repayment trends, economic conditions, and policy shifts, it's...

  • Episode #174

    The Dogefather Strikes at the SBA ft. Darren Davis, Javier Jorge, and Brooke Mirenda | Ep. 174

    Mar 6, 202550 min

    This week on The Art of SBA Lending, we're diving into the Twitter war of the century: Elon Musk vs. the SBA. It all started when Musk called the Small Business Administration the "Shady Business Administration" and...

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