Episode #29
Pastors Get Brutally Honest About Church Hurt | The Analog Gospel | Episode 29
Everybody’s talking about church hurt. Almost nobody’s talking about who’s actually doing it. The conversation runs one direction: institutions wound individuals. Pastors abuse, systems fail, people get crushed. All of that happens, and it’s serious, and we’re not minimizing it. But here’s what doesn’t get said. Most church hurt isn’t coming from a platform. It’s coming from a pew. We gossip, offend, and hurt each other because we are all still… people. And ask any pastor (and their children) how much the people they lead have hurt them and you’d be shocked… but you’ll never see that on a documentary. This episode is not a defense of bad leaders. It’s a challenge to the people who make up the body of Christ. Pastor Jason Parrish is joined by Pastor Erica Parrish, Pastor Joshua Bingle, and John Rowa to talk about church hurt like you've never heard it before. We get into: what separates formation from offense, why correction always stings and why that isn’t evidence of anything nefarious, what to actually do when you’ve been hurt, and how to stop being the person who does the hurting. CHAPTERS 00:00 Teaser 01:30 Welcome to The Analog Gospel 03:36 The Biggest Perpetrator of Church Hurt is You 05:12 Don't conflate real abuse with everyday offense 06:34 The church didn't hurt you. Someone in the church did. 07:57 Scripture never promised you wouldn't get hurt 10:41 The New Testament church was worse than yours 12:08 Heaven hasn't arrived at your church yet 15:32 Offense is a moment. Offended is a choice. 16:35 The worst place for a sheep is away from the flock 19:27 Loving the person who hurt you 24:17 How do you tell correction from offense? 31:27 Correction is a gift nobody asks for 32:17 Undeputizing the tone police 35:03 When "no" feels like an injury 36:15 Idea versus identity 42:50 Why do we only see hurt as top-down? 45:32 Hebrews 13:17 and what a congregation owes its leaders 51:08 It's usually not the senior pastor 54:06 "I've experienced real church hurt." Now what? 57:39 What pastors' kids see 01:00:20 Stop looking for hurt everywhere -- The Analog Gospel is a podcast about Christian living, theology, and culture. If you're hungry for Biblical truth and how to stay rooted in our "ancient faith in a future world" then this podcast is for you! Recorded at The Well Church in Sandy, Utah. New podcast episodes of The Analog Gospel drop every Sunday. Want an Analog Gospel hat or shirt? Visit https://TheAnalogGospel.com Pastor Jason Parrish is lead pastor of @TheWellUtah in Sandy, UT. Pastor Josh Bingle is lead pastor of @genesischurchspokanewa in Spokane, WA. -- The Well is a non-denominational Christian church located in the Salt Lake City, Utah area. We exist to see people far from God encouraged, equipped, empowered, and released as fully devoted followers of Jesus. If you're new or just wanting to find out more information about what's happening here, text “The Well” to 55498 to download our app now! Did you make a decision to follow Jesus today? We want to celebrate and send you a Bible plus a copy of Pastor Jason Parrish's "I Said Yes" book. Click here: https://www.thewellslc.com/next Need prayer or needing care? Visit: https://www.thewellslc.com/care If you'd like to partner with what is happening here in Salt Lake City and as we reach people throughout the world, or you are already committed to being a generous partner of The Well, you can give your tithes and offerings by visiting: https://www.thewellslc.com/giving/ -- Follow The Well to Stay Connected: https://www.tiktok.com/@thewellutah https://www.instagram.com/thewell.utah/ https://www.facebook.com/thewell.utah https://www.youtube.com/@TheWellUtah https://www.thewellslc.com/ Follow Pastor Jason: https://www.instagram.com/jasonparrishslc/ Follow Pastor Josh: https://www.instagram.com/joshuabingle
