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027. The Anesthesiologist Teaching High Performers to Sleep | Dr. Soshana Clerizier on Sleep as a Hard Asset, the Sleep Divorce Trend & the Science of Being Knocked Out
Welcome back to STACKED, the show about becoming your own best asset. Today I sat down with Dr. Soshana Clerizier, a board-certified anesthesiologist and Assistant Professor of Anesthesiology at Weill Cornell Medicine. Her actual day job is guiding patients safely into unconsciousness in the operating room — and she's taken everything she knows about how the body lets go and built Knocked Out, a physician-led sleep wellness studio for high performers who have optimized everything except the one thing that won't cooperate: rest. In this conversation, we get into why standard wellness advice fails ambitious women, the physiological reason you're still awake at 2am, and the one sleep habit tied to a 24% lower mortality risk in a 105,000-person study. She also gives me her real physician's verdict on the sleep-divorce trend, whether your sleep tracker could be feeding your insomnia, and what she'd actually steal from Bryan Johnson's famously extreme sleep routine. This is the episode for anyone who has optimized their training, their nutrition, their calendar, and their money — and still can't get a good night's sleep. Key Topics: •The anesthesia-to-sleep bridge • Why standard wellness advice fails high-performing women • Sleep as physiology, not willpower • Michael Jackson and propofol • Wearables and orthosomnia • The 105,000-person study • Alcohol and sleep architecture • Sleep divorce and the Scandinavian method • Jet lag • Bryan Johnson verdict • Social jet lag • Building Knocked Out alongside academic medicine • Inside The Drift • Clinical care vs. wellness-spa market • Access, affordability, and doing less as the power move Timestamps: • 00:00 Intro • 07:39 Why High Performers Still Can't Sleep • 09:45 From Anesthesiologist to Sleep Founder • 12:27 How Anesthesia Actually Works • 14:26 What Determines How Much Anesthesia Someone Needs • 16:01 Why Anesthesia Is Not the Same as Sleep • 17:29 The Michael Jackson Story & The Dangers of Using Anesthesia for Sleep • 19:30 The Link Between Anxiety, Trust & Falling Asleep • 22:02 Why Modern High Performers Struggle With Sleep • 26:31 Sleep Hygiene Myths & What Actually Matters • 31:12 The Science of Nervous System Regulation • 36:10 Building The Drift: Turning Medical Insights Into a Business • 41:48 Leaving Academic Medicine to Pursue Entrepreneurship • 47:35 Lightning Round Disclaimer: The content shared on this page should not be construed as legal, financial, investment, or medical advice. Your viewing and/or use of this information does not create any kind of client, patient, or fiduciary relationship with us. The contents are intended for general informational purposes only, and you are urged to consult your own advisors concerning your situation and specific questions you may have.
