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Hosted by Katie Boysen & Katie Dufficy · business · EN-US · 71 episodes
CEOs trust us, the media tolerates us, and our mothers think we know Oprah. The Smart in Public podcast, hosted by Katie Boysen and Katie Dufficy, shares business, career, and life experiences through the world of two Public Relations professionals just trying to keep their sh*t together.
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Signup to Generate a PitchCEOs trust us, the media tolerates us, and our mothers think we know Oprah. The Smart in Public podcast, hosted by Katie Boysen and Katie Dufficy, shares business, career, and life experiences through the world of two Public Relations professionals just trying to keep their sh*t together.
Smart in Public is hosted by Katie Boysen & Katie Dufficy. The show has published 71 episodes to date.
Recent episodes include "Draft 57: Inside the Life of a CEO Speechwriter with Felicity Barber, Thoughtful Communications" (8 October 2026, 56 minutes), "Does Ageism Exist in Comms? 78% of Women Say Yes" (13 August 2026, 49 minutes), and "The Say-Do Gap, Why Organization Culture is About Systems, Mutton Dressed as Lamb & More: Welcome to Season 4!!" (6 August 2026, 63 minutes).
Smart in Public publishes roughly every two weeks, with episodes averaging 51 minutes across 71 episodes.
Booking probability for Smart in Public is 33%, and the host is rated Selective on guests. Smart in Public requires a Pod Score of 80 or higher. Smart in Public's contact route on record: verified email.
The strongest fits for Smart in Public are Marketing, Advertising & PR. Smart in Public has a business audience.
Katie Boysen & Katie Dufficy hosts Smart in Public, a business show with 71 episodes published.
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Episode #71
In this episode of Smart in Public, the Katie's welcome Felicity Barber, the woman behind the speeches for leaders at Lloyd's of London, the Federal Reserve Banks of San Francisco and New York, and BlackRock. Today she...
Episode #69
This week, the Katies get into why experienced comms pros get quietly sidelined right as they hit their peak, and what you can do about it whether you hire people or you're the one job hunting. This one started with a...
Episode #68
In the season 4 opener for Smart in Public, The Katies unpack a recent research study from Bink on organizational culture. They get into the say-do gap and why the space between what leaders say and what they actually...
Episode #67
<p>In this episode of Smart in Public, we sit down with Jenny Bavinger, VP of Marketing Communications at Sapphire Ventures, to talk about founders, why PR is a service business that can't be easily productized, the...
Episode #66
<p>AI video is everywhere, and in this episode, The Katies welcome Joe Ciarallo, Head of US Communications at Synthesia, to pull back the curtain on what it takes to build a brand in one of the most scrutinized corners...
Episode #65
<p>What happens when your company moves so fast that your communications strategy is already outdated by the time you ship it?</p><p>That's the reality at Lovable — the AI-native company that's making software creation...
Episode #64
<p>If you've been quietly doom-scrolling job boards and wondering if it's just you — it's not. The communications job market is genuinely hard right now, and nobody's being fully honest about why and what to...
Episode #63
<p>What does it actually take to build an AI product for an industry that's still figuring out what AI means for its future?<br/><br/>Michelle Masek and Nadia Jamshidi didn't wait around for someone else to answer that...
Episode #62
<p>This week, the Katies sit down with Michael O’Brien, CEO of Highwire, and Cortney Stapleton, Chief Strategy & Business Officer at Highwire (and former CEO of The Bliss Group), to unpack what really happens when PR...
Episode #61
<p>In this episode of Smart in Public, The Katies sit down with Kerry Flynn, reporter at Axios, to unpack the seismic shifts reshaping media, marketing, and communications and try to understand what it all means for PR...
Episode #60
<p>This week, Brooke Hammerling, founder of The New New Thing, joins the Katies for a Pop Culture Monday x Smart in Public mashup episode.</p><p>Brooke has seen the PR industry from every angle -- from building...
Episode #59
<p>In the spirit of Season 3's unofficial theme of 'are we helping or hurting', The Katies take to Reddit to uncover some of the questions that are on our fellow comm's folks minds. Did we give some good advice...
Episode #58
<p>What happens when one of tech's sharpest communications minds crosses over to the investment side? Ashley Mayer, co-founder and GP at Coalition, made the leap from leading comms at some of the most talked-about...
Episode #57
<p>We're back, baby. Season 3 kicks off with what we're now calling a Katie & Katie Special. We felt like the distinction was necessary considering how many guests we have coming your way, so sit back, relax, and listen...
Episode #56
<p>Hello from down unda! We're on the same time zone for the first time for a year and wanted to take a quick moment to wrap up Season 2 with a gratitude bow. Thank you to everyone for tuning and chiming in -- we still...
Episode #55
<p>Crisis communications expert Tara Goodwin has seen it all: executives freezing under pressure, companies making bad situations catastrophically worse, and the rare leaders who actually nail it when everything's on...
Episode #54
<p>Most PR professionals think they understand journalists—but Meredith Klein, the veteran communications strategist behind the rapidly-growing Meredith & the Media newsletter, is here to take us to school. In this...
Episode #53
<p>Ever notice how when corporate giants go to war, they suddenly discover their deep concern for "customers" and "fairness"? </p><p>This week on Smart in Public, the Katies dissect the Disney vs. Google/YouTube TV...
Episode #52
<p>Ever wonder why everyone in PR talks about measurement but nobody seems to have cracked it? Linda Zebian, VP of Communications at Muck Rack, just said the quiet part out loud—and it's exactly what you need to hear...
Episode #51
<p>In an industry obsessed with job-hopping, Jess Aptman, Chief Communications Officer at Zocdoc, has been at the company for 13 years and she's here to tell you why loyalty isn't a dirty word. In this refreshingly...
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