**Ski In Sell Out** is a Park City, Utah podcast about the people, stories, careers, businesses, and big life decisions that shape a mountain town.Hosted by Park City real estate professionals Max Doilney and Lauren Angerosa, the conversations go well beyond real estate. Entrepreneurs, athletes, business leaders, locals, newcomers, and interesting people from all walks of life share what they’ve built, what they’ve learned, what they’ve screwed up, and what matters when the definition of success starts to change.Expect candid conversations about career pivots, money, family, community, real estate, mountain life, and the strange paths people take to get where they are.No pitches. No polished success stories. Just interesting people talking about real life — usually with a few unexpected turns along the way.Based in Park City and the Wasatch Back, **Ski In Sell Out** is where mountain-town culture, ambitious people, and real life collide.
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Episode #38
Wait, You Studied Chinese? - Malena Stevens
Sep 28, 202658 minS1
What does a county clerk do when she’s not being a county clerk? In Melina Stevens’ case, quite a bit. This week, Max and Lauren sit down with Melina to talk about the road from California’s Central Valley to Summit County, with stops at BYU, a semester studying in China, and nine years working as a victim advocate with the Park City Police Department. A move to Florida that never happened somehow turned into a life in Park City. As these things tend to do. We get into the work of showing up for people on their worst days, why she decided to run for office, what it’s like to raise a kid while working in government, and why travel has become such an important part of her life. And then the conversation goes somewhere a little different: perfectionism, the expectations we inherit, and learning to build a life that feels like your own. There’s some local government in here. There’s also China, Southern Italy, a sailing trip across the Mediterranean, and a pretty great answer to where she hopes to be in ten years. Turns out the person behind the public role is usually the more interesting story.
Aldy Milliken’s path to Park City makes almost no sense until you hear the whole thing. He started college studying economics, found photography, chased the art world to New York, drove a baby-blue Volvo into the Utah desert to see four giant concrete tubes, bought a one-way ticket to Southeast Asia, became an elementary school teacher, opened a gallery in Stockholm, reconnected with his future wife through a postcard, spent nearly two decades abroad, landed in Louisville and eventually found his way to the Kimball Art Center. And somehow, the thread through all of it is pretty clear. This episode is about art, education, taking opportunities when they show up, finding your voice, and what happens when a lifetime of seemingly unrelated experiences starts to make sense looking backward. It’s also about Park City, leadership, experiential education and why slowing down long enough to understand the person sitting next to you might be more important than we give it credit for. We also get corrected on our liberal use of the word “curated.” Fair enough.
Bob Peek came to Park City in 1981 for what was supposed to be a semester off. Then he got a job parking cars and shoveling sidewalks during Deer Valley's first season, started painting houses with his brother, made about $20,000 a year, skied roughly 50 days and figured he had things pretty well dialed. His dad wasn't so sure. Nearly 40 years later, that painting company is still here. Except Bob doesn't own it anymore. His son Jonas does. The funny part is Jonas wasn't waiting around for it. He grew up in Park City, left for college, became a software developer, worked at Amazon and startups and built the kind of career that looked pretty damn good on paper. Then he started wondering why it wasn't particularly fulfilling. Eventually, he started looking differently at the business he'd grown up around. This conversation is about a painting company, but not really. It's about leaving home so you can understand it. Building a business for one reason and watching the next generation find an entirely different reason to keep it. The difference between impressive work and meaningful work. Family businesses, Park City, community, powder days, expensive toys and the strange satisfaction of making something tangible happen. Bob built a business that let him live here. Jonas discovered it might let him build a life here. Turns out Dad may have been onto something. Ski In Sell Out with Max Doilney and Lauren Angerosa. Real estate is what we do. People are why we keep turning on the microphones.
Chris Conabee’s résumé makes almost no sense until you hear him tell the story. He grew up in Newark, landed at Brighton High School with a Jersey accent, went back east to work on Wall Street, earned his MBA at Columbia, left it all to care for his mom, came back west, worked Sundance, guided the Grand Canyon and eventually found his way into development and building in Utah. Chris describes life as a tree: you eventually end up on a leaf you never could have picked from the ground, but when you trace every branch back, somehow the path makes sense. But what really stood out in this conversation was how often people showed up at exactly the right time. Friends, coworkers and mentors kept grabbing Chris by the elbow and pointing him toward whatever came next. We talk about old friends who knew you before the résumé, losing his mom, fear of failure, building things, Utah culture, the legislature, housing, raising kids and why—despite the traffic, growth and changes—Chris still thinks this is a pretty remarkable place to call home. We didn't get through half of what we wanted to ask him. Which is probably the sign of a good conversation.
34 - Who Do You Want to Be This Time? Charlie Johnson
Aug 31, 202652 minS1
What happens when your life never really follows the plan? Charlie Johnson moved to Park City for his senior year of high school after growing up around Pittsburgh, and almost immediately found something here that would shape the rest of his life: community. From Park City to Montana, New York City, rural courtrooms, San Francisco and the renewable energy industry, Charlie’s path has been anything but linear. Along the way he studied history, worked on hip-hop music videos, went to law school, clerked for a judge in rural Montana, found his way into large-scale renewable energy real estate, and kept returning to the relationships and places that helped make him who he is. Now, at 50, Charlie is in another completely new chapter: fatherhood. Charlie joins Max and Lauren for a conversation about moving, reinventing yourself, the strange freedom of starting somewhere new, career paths that make sense only in hindsight, becoming a parent later in life, aging parents, family, friendship and why community becomes increasingly important as we get older. It’s a conversation about transition—but maybe even more about what stays with us through all of it.
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