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Hosted by Julie Granger · education · EN-US
Sink into your truth, rewrite the story you were born to live, swim in your Soul’s purpose. Sink AND Swim is a podcast for high-achieving Luminaires ready to break free from the “sink or swim” societal narratives that dictate the “right” ways to live, work, parent, and be. By paddling furiously to stay afloat and conform to the corset of "sink or swim" narratives, we are pulled away from our deepest and most authentic stories. This show illuminates the stories of Luminaires - gifted, talented, multidimensional, soul-led, and neurospicy people who have gone on the deep alchemical journey from telling a story of sink OR swim to sink AND swim. Listeners are invited to “sink” into your raw, unfiltered stories, uncovering the gifts embedded in the parts of you that you were conditioned to hide and conform. There, you'll find the buoyancy to “swim” - fully
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Signup to Generate a PitchSink into your truth, rewrite the story you were born to live, swim in your Soul’s purpose. Sink AND Swim is a podcast for high-achieving Luminaires ready to break free from the “sink or swim” societal narratives that dictate the “right” ways to live, work, parent, and be.
Sink and Swim is hosted by Julie Granger. The show has published 40 episodes to date.
Recent episodes include "Burnout is a 4th-degree burn: Dr. Lisa Massey DPT on the mom, athlete, PT, and healer who finally rested" (21 October 2026, 74 minutes), ""Figure out what you like" - What Julie Laracy, a semi-retired PT at 62, would tell her younger self and every burned out clinician" (23 September 2026, 67 minutes), and "Physical Therapists: Vision 2020 gave you a doctorate. It also gave you a chip on your shoulder." (9 September 2026, 19 minutes).
Sink and Swim publishes roughly every two weeks, with episodes averaging 66 minutes across 40 episodes.
Booking probability for Sink and Swim is 32%, and the host is rated Selective on guests. Sink and Swim requires a Pod Score of 80 or higher. Sink and Swim's contact route on record: verified email.
Julie Granger hosts Sink and Swim, an education podcast with 40 episodes published.
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Episode #18
Lisa Massey calls herself a fourth-generation working mom, a third-generation healthcare professional, a second-generation entrepreneur, and a first-generation Lisa. In this episode, she and Julie talk about what it...
Episode #17
What would a PT with 35 years behind her tell you about the career you're in right now? Julie Laracy is 62, recently semi-retired, and busier than she's ever been. In this episode, she looks back on a physical therapy...
Episode #16
If you went to physical therapy school between 2000 and 2020, you were trained under Vision 2020 — a genuinely good vision that also quietly taught you that you'd never be enough as you are. In this Notes from a Fart...
Episode #15
Julie West — who goes by Julie Earthy — holds two master's degrees in international environmental science, published peer-reviewed work on aquatic ecosystems in semi-arid countries, and did field work that took her from...
Episode #14
You know how to treat a patient with an overuse injury. It’s time to take your own medicine and apply that to your career. You would never tell a runner with six months of knee pain to keep foam rolling, keep scrolling...
Episode #13
Dr. Kari Lindegren is a physical therapist, educator, and swimmer who has spent her career working with youth athletes — specifically adolescent girls navigating pelvic health concerns. In this episode, she and Julie...
Episode #14
Charmaine Horn spent eight years as a psychiatric inpatient nurse before she did something a lot of us have done — Googled her way out of a spiral and accidentally found her life's work. What followed was a series of...
Episode #13
You're in the middle of something — a career pivot, a business transition, a relationship shift — and someone asks a perfectly innocent question like "How's life?" or "How's work going?" Your throat clenches. You either...
Episode #12
Mbong Henry is a physical therapist specializing in sporty pelvises, a health coach, mom of three, and — as of her 40s — a competitive Olympic weightlifter. But this episode is really about something underneath all of...
Episode #11
You did everything right. The credentials, the business, the team, the referrals. And now you're sitting in the parking lot before work, not tired, not late — just unable to make yourself go in. In this solo episode...
Episode #10
Ashley Martinez is a women's health pelvic floor PT, integrative nutrition health coach, single mom, and highly sensitive person who spent years leading with her credentials — until life made that impossible. In this...
Episode #9
On April 1st, 2026, I opened a patient portal and read the words that officially closed an 11-year chapter of cancer surveillance. No fanfare. No one else in the room. Just me, the screen, and a quiet exhale that had...
Sink and Swim
Dr. Jessica Drummond has spent two decades training clinicians and coaches in women's health. She built the only women's health coach certification program in the world. And somewhere in the middle of all of that, she...
Episode #7
You see the LinkedIn announcement from a colleague. You see them celebrate pivoting from Point A to Point B. But you don't don't see what happened in the middle of the pivot for it to actually happen. In this episode...
Episode #6
Many high-achieving and active women in perimenopause and teen athletes in puberty pride themselves on discipline, resilience, and doing everything “right.” But what if the very habits that helped you succeed are...
Episode #5
Welcome to the second-ever Notes from a Fart Walk — your monthly, come-as-you-are digest for ambitious women who are tired of urgency, polarization, and performative “fix yourself” wisdom. In this episode, Julie sinks...
Episode #4
If you’re a highly sensitive being, neurodivergent, or introverted… and you find big, stimulating events hard but don’t want to avoid “peopling” altogether, this episode is for you. If you've ever left a conference...
Episode #3
You’ve started talking about coaching. Maybe you’ve taken a certification. Maybe you’ve signed a few clients. Maybe you’re posting about it online. Maybe you’re still seeing patients “for now.” And yet — you don’t feel...
Episode #2
This is the first interview of Sink & Swim 2026, and Julie kicks off Season 2 with Dr. Brianne Grogan (“Dr. Bri”)—a pelvic health PT known for a massive YouTube presence who just made a wildly brave move: she stopped...
Episode #1
Welcome to the very first Notes from a Fart Walk —a monthly digest episode inside Sink & Swim where nothing has to be polished, optimized, or resolved to be worth sharing. This episode is an invitation to metabolize...
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