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Shoveling Smoke

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Shoveling Smoke – A Frantz Ward Lawcast is a podcast series created by Frantz Ward LLP, a full-service law firm in Cleveland, Ohio. Supreme Court Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes said that "lawyers spend a great deal of their time shoveling smoke." One interpretation of his remark is that lawyers take a vague concept or principle and give it shape, clearing away the smoke. Our podcast series focuses on current legal issues and news items that may affect your business, your community or you as an individual. Our attorneys – sometimes with a judge, client or other guest – spend 15-20 minutes exploring an issue and, at the end, provide a few takeaways to assist you in making sense of the gray areas of law.

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What is Shoveling Smoke about?

Shoveling Smoke, A Frantz Ward Lawcast is a podcast series created by Frantz Ward LLP, a full-service law firm in Cleveland, Ohio.

Who hosts Shoveling Smoke?

Shoveling Smoke is hosted by Frantz Ward LLP. The show has published 33 episodes to date.

What has Shoveling Smoke covered recently?

Recent episodes include "Everybody's Using AI. Nobody’s Owning It." (31 August 2026, 51 minutes), "Cannabis Rescheduling and Employment" (6 August 2026, 11 minutes), and "Pay Transparency in Cleveland: Compliance Tips for Employers" (5 December 2025, 8 minutes).

How often does Shoveling Smoke publish?

Shoveling Smoke publishes roughly every few months, with episodes averaging 22 minutes across 33 episodes.

How hard is it to get booked on Shoveling Smoke?

Booking probability for Shoveling Smoke is 21%, and the host is rated Selective on guests. Shoveling Smoke requires a Pod Score of 80 or higher. Shoveling Smoke's contact route on record: verified email.

Who should pitch Shoveling Smoke?

The strongest fits for Shoveling Smoke are Law & Legal Services. Shoveling Smoke has a business audience.

About the host

Frantz Ward LLP hosts Shoveling Smoke, a business podcast with 33 episodes published.

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Recent episodes

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  • Shoveling Smoke

    Everybody's Using AI. Nobody’s Owning It.

    Aug 31, 202651 min

    This summer, a congressional staffer pasted raw chatbot output straight into an official amendment to the national defense bill, timestamp and all. Nobody caught it until it went public. In this launch episode for...

  • Shoveling Smoke

    Cannabis Rescheduling and Employment

    Aug 6, 202611 min

    Frantz Ward Associate and Host ⁠Josh A. Friedman⁠ sits down with Associate ⁠Ben F. Kerns⁠ to discuss the employment considerations and implications of The Department of Justice’s April 2026 order that...

  • Shoveling Smoke

    Pay Transparency in Cleveland: Compliance Tips for Employers

    Dec 5, 20258 min

    Frantz Ward Associate and Host Josh A. Friedman sits down with Associate Ben F. Kerns to break down Cleveland’s new Pay Transparency Ordinance, which took effect Monday, October 27, 2025. They discuss which employers...

  • Shoveling Smoke

    DEI in 2025: Legal Shifts, Executive Orders, and What Employers Need to Know

    Sep 24, 202524 min

    In this episode, Labor & Employment Associates Katherine E. McLaughlin and Stacey M. Sanderson tackle one of the most common questions from clients in 2025: What’s going on with DEI? With host, firm Associate Josh A...

  • Episode #30

    Ep 30 | An Overview of the First and Latest Recreational Cannabis States: What to Learn and What’s Next

    Apr 16, 202530 min

    In the 13 years since Colorado legalized recreational cannabis, the industry has exploded in multiple states across the country. With Ohio as the latest to open its doors to the cannabis industry, Frantz Ward Of Counsel...

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    Executive Orders and DEI: A New Landscape for Employers

    Mar 3, 202519 min

    The new Trump administration has already implemented significant changes to DEI policies, EEOC enforcement policies, and federal contractor requirements. Join Frantz Ward Partners Megan Bennett and Andrew Cleves as they...

  • Shoveling Smoke

    Smart Hiring or Smart Risks? AI's Impact on Employment Law

    Dec 5, 202417 min

    Artificial intelligence is reshaping how employers screen candidates and make hiring decisions—but with this power comes responsibility. Join Frantz Ward Partner Megan Bennett and Associate Stacey Sanderson as they...

  • Episode #27

    Building a Secure Future: Cyber Defense in Construction

    Nov 7, 202431 minS1

    Cybersecurity isn't just a tech issue—it's a construction imperative. Join Frantz Ward Partner Brad Reed and Associate Brad Ouambo as they uncover the vulnerabilities within the industry and share actionable advice on...

  • Episode #25

    Following the Rule: A Guide to Recent FTC Developments

    Aug 26, 202421 minS1

    With the Federal Trade Commission recently issuing their “Final Rule,” this leaves employers facing a lot of unknowns along with impending questions about the state of their companies. Labor and Employment Practice...

  • Episode #25

    Do You Hear That? Employers Facing Rise in OSHA section 11(c) Whistleblower Complaints

    Aug 1, 202319 min

    In recent years, the number of OSHA Whistleblower complaints has been steadily on the rise, but why? In the newest episode of Shoveling Smoke, Frantz Ward Partner Christina Niro joins host Chris Koehler as they discuss...

  • Episode #24

    Labor and Employment Updates in 2023 – A Preview of Frantz Ward’s Annual Labor Seminar

    May 9, 202316 min

    The labor and employment fields seem like they’re in a constant state of change. If you’re looking for an update, why not learn from the best? Labor & Employment Practice Group Partner Christina Niro joins host Chris...

  • Episode #23

    Filling the Employment Gap: A Conversation with Team NEO’s Jacob Duritsky

    Dec 7, 202227 min

    As businesses continue to face challenges in locating and retaining employees, it’s clear that a key to the growth and success of Northeast Ohio’s economy is the development of the workforce and talent to fill existing...

  • Shoveling Smoke

    HR Evolved: How Attorneys can Partner with HR Professionals in a Constantly Changing World

    Sep 27, 202231 min

    Human Resources is an ever-changing field and the Pandemic only seemed to demonstrate this further. From updating guidelines, to updating technology, the evolution of HR in the last few years alone is enough to put even...

  • Jul 12, 202216 min

    Will my family be taken care of when I am no longer around? Who will take care of me if I become incapacitated? Although these are questions we often don’t like to consider, the Covid-19 pandemic woke many people up to...

  • Oct 19, 202113 min

    As a business grows, a very exciting step is adding the company’s first employees, but it is also one that should be very intentional and well-considered. Frantz Ward attorney Megan Bennett joins the podcast to discuss...

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