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Rock That Doesn't Roll: The Story of Christian Music

Hosted by Andrew Gill and Leah Payne · music · EN-US · 74 episodes

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Rock That Doesn’t Roll looks at how Christian music shaped the world we're living in now by telling individual stories from the peak era of the contemporary Christian music industry. In the 80s, 90s and early 2000s CCM grew into a billion dollar business that affected millions of evangelical young people. Through interviews with artists, industry players and average fans Dr. Leah Payne and Andrew Gill trace the long-lasting personal, cultural and political impact of sometimes cringe-worthy music. Expect hilarious moments and heartfelt yearning, purity culture and conservative politics- all in equal measure. Whether you’ve deconstructed, come out or renegotiated your faith, we hope you feel seen. If you’ve never given Christian music any thought beyond a punchline, we hope you’ll gain a deeper understanding of a subculture that’s shaping the world around us now.Join our <a href="https://www.patreon.com

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What is Rock That Doesn't Roll: The Story of Christian Music about?

Rock That Doesn’t Roll looks at how Christian music shaped the world we're living in now by telling individual stories from the peak era of the contemporary Christian music industry. In the 80s, 90s and early 2000s CCM grew into a billion dollar business that affected millions of evangelical young people.

Who hosts Rock That Doesn't Roll: The Story of Christian Music?

Rock That Doesn't Roll: The Story of Christian Music is hosted by Andrew Gill and Leah Payne. The show has published 74 episodes to date.

What has Rock That Doesn't Roll: The Story of Christian Music covered recently?

Recent episodes include "Rewind: Jennifer Knapp's Journey" (14 October 2026, 44 minutes), "Choosing Sacred Music (ft. Nico Muhly)" (30 September 2026, 72 minutes), and "Rewind: Radicalized By Christian Ska (ft. Five Iron Frenzy)" (16 September 2026, 38 minutes).

How often does Rock That Doesn't Roll: The Story of Christian Music publish?

Rock That Doesn't Roll: The Story of Christian Music publishes roughly every two weeks, with episodes averaging 58 minutes across 74 episodes.

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Booking probability for Rock That Doesn't Roll: The Story of Christian Music is 33%, and the host is rated Selective on guests. Rock That Doesn't Roll: The Story of Christian Music requires a Pod Score of 80 or higher. Rock That Doesn't Roll: The Story of Christian Music's contact route on record: verified email.

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Andrew Gill and Leah Payne hosts Rock That Doesn't Roll: The Story of Christian Music, a music show with 74 episodes published.

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  • Rock That Doesn't Roll: The Story of Christian Music

    Rewind: Jennifer Knapp's Journey

    Oct 14, 202644 min

    This episode was originally published in 2024. In 1999, ​singer-songwriter Jennifer Knapp was at the top of the Christian music world. Her debut album Kansas was gold-certified, she'd won four Gospel Music Association...

  • Episode #14

    Choosing Sacred Music (ft. Nico Muhly)

    Sep 30, 20261h 12mS4

    This a special addendum episode to season 4. Nico Muhly is an extremely accomplished composer known for work with Sufjan Stevens, Bjork, Grizzly Bear, Steve Reich, Philip Glass and so much more (including two operas for...

  • Rock That Doesn't Roll: The Story of Christian Music

    Rewind: Radicalized By Christian Ska (ft. Five Iron Frenzy)

    Sep 16, 202638 min

    This is episode was originally released in 2024. If there's one music genre lampooned more than Christian rock, it might just be ska. And Christian ska? Expect next level ridicule. But a lovable band of misfits from...

  • Rock That Doesn't Roll: The Story of Christian Music

    Rewind: SIC Innovations (ft. Brad Onishi and DL Mayfield)

    Sep 2, 202646 min

    For 1990s evangelical teens, punk, hardcore, and ska were a gateway to a passionate, edgy way to express their Christianity outside the mainstream. But was the music and the message enough to keep the evangelical faith...

  • Episode #11

    When DIY Music Met Youth Group Kids (ft. Randall Stephens and Scott Hatch)

    Jul 22, 20261h 4mS4

    Scott Hatch grew up Methodist, but learned about DIY music at his college radio station. When he started his label, Burnt Toast Vinyl, in 1996 he put out bands that had a similar background to him- fellow youth group...

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  • Rock That Doesn't Roll: The Story of Christian Music

    Ye Spiritually Incorrect Gods (ft. Scott Carter)

    Jul 8, 20261h 17m

    Scott Carter is the host of Ye Gods , a podcast and public radio show that explores codes of religious, cultural and secular conduct with notable guests like Martin Short, Killer Mike and Moon Zappa among many others...

  • Rock That Doesn't Roll: The Story of Christian Music

    Exvangelical Folk Punk Recorded in a Warzone (ft. Emperor X)

    Jun 24, 202650 min

    Chad Matheny is better known by his folk punk band name, Emperor X . His 12th full length album, Unified Field , is out on June 26 and features a single called "Praise Jesus! Hail Reagan!" Much of the album was recorded...

  • Episode #8

    The Supertones' Progressive Neighbor (ft. Jewly Hight)

    Jun 10, 20261h 17mS4

    <p>Jewly Hight is a noted music journalist best known for her work with NPR Music, Nashville Public Radio, The Bitter Southerner and more. She's also a friend of Leah's from their days together in grad school at...

  • Episode #7

    Drag as Folk (ft. Flamy Grant)

    May 27, 20261h 3mS4

    <p>Flamy Grant may be the world's only Christian drag queen songwriter. She's one of the few queer artists to ever top the Christian music category in the iTunes Store. She's also a guest we've wanted to have on the...

  • Episode #6

    Only Visiting This Punk Planet via Germany (ft. Nina Hagen)

    May 13, 202653 minS4

    <p>Nina Hagen is a true legend. She's considered an icon of German culture. And she's known as "the Godmother of German Punk." But our interview with her revealed that she also should be considered a longtime Jesus...

  • Episode #5

    The Reverse CCM Crossovers of 1985 (ft. Tim Dillinger)

    Apr 29, 202655 minS4

    <p>Tim Dillinger returns to the podcast to continue our examination of 1985 as a pivotal year in Christian music. This time his focus is on artists who tried to break into the Christian industry, including Donna Summer...

  • Episode #4

    When The Songs Aren't Enough (ft. Rosie Thomas)

    Apr 15, 20261h 27mS4

    <p>Rosie Thomas is a singer-songwriter who came up alongside artists like Damien Jurado, Pedro The Lion and Sufjan Stevens. She was one of the first folk artists signed to Sub Pop Records and had a long-running comedic...

  • Episode #3

    The Normals Approach to Christian Music (ft. Andrew Osenga)

    Apr 1, 202656 minS4

    <p>In the late 1990's Andrew Osenga's high school band caught the ear of a member of Whiteheart. That led Osenga to Nashville and his band, The Normals, releasing three albums on ForeFront Records. In the decades since...

  • Episode #2

    What's Funny About Failing at Christian Rock? (ft. Jeremy Alder)

    Mar 18, 20261h 5mS4

    <p>Jeremy Alder is a comedian who mines his life as a homeschooled youth group kid growing up in Texas for jokes that will probably be very relatable for our audience. We talk with Jeremy about his special, Purity...

  • Episode #1

    Sneaking D'Angelo Riffs Into Worship (ft. Sam Sanders)

    Mar 4, 20261 hourS4

    <p>Sam Sanders is the host of The Sam Sanders Show from KCRW. He was a founding host of The NPR Politics Podcast and It's Been A Minute from NPR. Sam grew up in the Black Pentecostal church in Texas, where he played...

  • Rock That Doesn't Roll: The Story of Christian Music

    Season 4 Trailer

    Feb 18, 20262 minS0

    <p>Rock That Doesn't Roll is coming back with Season 4 launching on March 4th. We'll be publishing every other week after that. </p><p>Do you have a Christian rock story to tell? Want to respond to this episode? Leave...

  • Rock That Doesn't Roll: The Story of Christian Music

    Jason Martin of Starflyer 59 (From Transmissions with Jason Woodbury)

    Jan 28, 20261h 7mS0

    <p>This episode is a feed drop from Transmissions with Jason Woodbury from Aquarium Drunkard. Here's their original show notes:</p><p>This week, we have an exceedingly rare interview with Jason Martin, of California...

  • Rock That Doesn't Roll: The Story of Christian Music

    Big Freedia: Is Twerking Next to Godliness? (From The Sam Sanders Show)

    Jan 7, 202649 minS0

    <p>Introducing The Sam Sanders Show from KCRW</p><p>This episode is a perfect fit for Rock That Doesn't Roll.</p><p>Big Freedia is best known as the Queen of Bounce, but her new album Pressing Onward showcases her...

  • Rock That Doesn't Roll: The Story of Christian Music

    The Christmas Special 2025 (ft. Kelsey McGinnis and Daniel Gill)

    Dec 19, 20251h 3mS0

    <p>It's our third annual Christmas special! Leah and Andrew are joined by returning guests Kelsey Kramer McGinnis and Daniel Gill. Everyone brought a Christmas song or two to celebrate and we even hear some picks from...

  • Rock That Doesn't Roll: The Story of Christian Music

    John Darnielle of The Mountain Goats on Sound Opinions

    Dec 10, 20251h 6mS0

    <p>Co-host and producer Andrew Gill's day job is with Sound Opinions. He recently interviewed John Darnielle of The Mountain Goats, so we're doing a feed drop here of that episode. </p><p>To share a song pick for the...

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