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Hosted by Ken Toler and Mike McCabe · 🇺🇸 US · EN-US · 85 episodes
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A Podcast dedicated to forging iron clad relationships between developers, engineers, operations, and security practitioners by discussing hot topics in the world of DevSecOps. This podcast aims to air out some of the common gripes, misconceptions, and hardships that these teams face in the real world every day.
Ken Toler and Mike McCabe hosts Relating to DevSecOps, a technology show with 85 episodes published.
Send us Fan Mail AI is changing the economics of cyberattacks by making them faster, cheaper, and easier to scale. In this episode of Relating to DevSecOps, Ken is joined by Conor Sherman, Chief Security Officer at Sysdi
Send us Fan Mail Ken and Mike are back in the AI trenches, this time unpacking the hype, fear, and practical security implications surrounding Anthropic’s Mythos preview. As the industry reacts to claims around AI-driven
Send us Fan Mail Ken and Mike are back from the grave to kick off 2026 with a timely debate on the AI panic cycle hitting software and security. They dig into the biggest questions flying around the industry right now: I
Send us Fan Mail In this candid and cathartic episode, Ken and Mike unpack the chaos that is Q4 for security professionals. From budget burnouts to end-of-year pentesting sprints, they explore why the final months of the
Send us Fan Mail In this no-punches-pulled return from hiatus, Ken and Mike dig deep into the messy middle of vulnerability management, SLA fatigue, and the illusion of compliance. Are we building secure systems or just
Send us Fan Mail In this episode of Relating to DevSecOps, Ken and Mike discuss the challenges faced by CISOs in today's security landscape, particularly the struggle to balance immediate security needs with long-term pr
Send us Fan Mail In this must-listen episode of Relating to DevSecOps, Ken welcomes the ever-inspiring Tanya Janca, aka SheHacksPurple—author, AppSec expert, and champion of making security usable. Together, they dig int
Send us Fan Mail In this episode of Relating to DevSecOps, Ken Toler and Mike McCabe dive deep into Google's blockbuster acquisition of Wiz.io for a reported $32 billion. They explore the implications for cloud security,
Send us Fan Mail Welcome to 2025! Ken and Mike kick off the new year with their security resolutions (or lack thereof) before diving into the bittersweet farewell to ShmooCon, one of the most beloved hacker conferences.
Send us Fan Mail In this special holiday-themed episode of Relating to DevSecOps , hosts Ken and Mike channel their inner Dickens with a retrospective journey through the "Ghosts of DevSecOps Past, Present, and Future."
Send us Fan Mail In this episode of Relating to DevSecOps, hosts Ken and Mike tackle the complex challenges of managing security budgets in organizations of all sizes. From small, scrappy teams to sprawling enterprises,
Send us Fan Mail In this episode, Ken and Mike discuss the pressing issue of staffing security in the DevSecOps field. They explore the challenges of finding qualified application security professionals, the importance o
Send us Fan Mail Ken and Mike dive deep into the world of metrics and measurement in the context of security and DevSecOps. They explore the critical role metrics play in driving security improvements, from tracking vuln
Send us Fan Mail Ken and Mike discuss the importance of postmortems in incident response and security incidents. They explore the definition of postmortems, the value of reflection, the challenges of blame, and the signi
Send us Fan Mail Ken and Mike discuss supply chain security, including software composition analysis (SCA) and software bill of materials (SBOM). They highlight the importance of understanding the components that make up
Send us Fan Mail In this episode Mike and Ken dive into the wild world of SaaS products in DevSecOps. From vendors to security tooling hygiene they cover an often overlooked ecosystem of cloud and software services that
Send us Fan Mail With pep and full youtube energy Ken and Mike discuss the findings of the IBM "Cost of a Data Breach" report and its implications for DevSecOps. They highlight the importance of integrating security into
Send us Fan Mail Ken and Mike discuss their new year's resolutions related to application security. They also reflect on the impact of AI and its adoption in the industry. The hosts share their experiences attending conf
Send us Fan Mail We are joined by incredible guests Mikhail Chechik and Marcus Hallberg as they help us define DevSecOps and emphasize the importance of a security mindset throughout the development process. These two in
Send us Fan Mail On this episode of R2DSO Mike and Ken dive into their takeaways and experiences from LASCON 2023 in Austin, TX where AI was both a problem child and praised bringer of salvation in security. Vendors and
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