
PUNK ROCK SOBER
Sober Doesn’t Mean Boring: Burning Man, Travel & Natural Highs | Mike Shibel
THANK YOU to our fabulous sponsors! Head over to http://shopify.com/prs to start your free trial today! Visit http://quince.com/punkrock for free shipping on your order and 365-day returns! Try Momentous Signature Spec Creatine at http://livemomentous.com and use code PRS for up to 35% off your entire first order. Tyler Ramsey is fresh off the playa — and this time, he experienced Burning Man sober. On this episode of Punk Rock Sober, Tyler sits down with travel expert and Travel With Meaning host Mike Shibel to talk about something people don't always associate with sobriety: having completely wild, unforgettable adventures. From Burning Man and Art Basel to New Orleans, Sequoia National Park, swimming with whale sharks in La Paz, sauna culture in Finland, surf trips in Costa Rica and wellness experiences in Austria, Tyler and Mike explore ways to get the rush, connection and sense of discovery people often think they'll lose when they stop drinking or using. Tyler also gets candid about his past — including appearing on Mike's podcast during a period when he was struggling to stay sober — and why he now believes recovery shouldn't mean sitting on the sidelines of life. Can travel become its own natural high? And when you're stable in sobriety, can you still put yourself in the middle of places like Burning Man and come out stronger? Mike's philosophy is simple: meaningful travel isn't just about where you go. As he puts it, not every journey is measured in miles. Punk Rock Sober is about living fully, taking risks, owning your past and discovering what life can look like without needing substances to make it interesting. The episode explicitly moves from Tyler's high-energy destinations — Burning Man, Art Basel and New Orleans — into Mike's nature/adventure approach to sober travel. Mike also describes nature as a different kind of “high” and talks about creating meaningful, memorable travel experiences. 00:00 Tyler Just Got Back From Burning Man 00:42 Meet Travel Expert Mike Shibel 01:48 Tyler Apologizes for His Past Podcast Appearance 05:07 Tyler Opens Up About Not Being Able to Stay Sober 06:05 Addiction, Regret & the MTV Opportunity 07:37 The Best Wild Experiences to Have Sober 08:27 #1 — Burning Man Sober 10:01 Tyler Was Offered Drugs at Burning Man 11:14 Nature as a Natural High 11:52 The Idea of “Sober Debauchery” 14:12 #2 — Art Basel Miami 18:00 #3 — Mardi Gras & New Orleans 20:03 Why Sobriety Shouldn't Limit Your Life 23:07 Mike's Travel With Meaning Philosophy 25:00 National Parks & Sequoia 30:00 Joshua Tree & Adventure Travel 31:00 Swimming With Whale Sharks 32:00 La Paz & the Sea of Cortez 35:00 Cruises, Alaska & the Galápagos 38:00 Finland: The Sauna Capital of the World 44:00 An Art Sauna in the Finnish Forest 46:00 Travel Traditions & Costa Rica 48:00 Surf Trips as a Natural High 50:00 Surf & Yoga Retreats in Costa Rica 52:00 High-End Travel & Meaningful Experiences 54:00 Festivals Around the World 56:00 Yoga, Hiking & Wellness in Austria 58:00 Exploring the Austrian Alps




