
Public Safety Talk Radio
First-Responder Trauma, Peer Support, and Recovery
Public Safety Talk Radio Episode 173 Retired Sacramento County Sheriff’s Office deputy Ryan Cleveringa joins Ken Bator for a candid conversation about the hidden toll of a career in public safety—and the courage it takes to ask for help. Ryan shares how repeated critical incidents, moral injury, isolation, strained relationships, and an early mismatch with therapy shaped his journey before he found a culturally competent clinician and the California Law Enforcement Assistance Program (CALEAP). He explains how CALEAP’s confidential, peer-driven seminars help law enforcement officers, firefighters, dispatchers, investigators, and their spouses recognize trauma responses, build trusted support networks, communicate more effectively, and rediscover hope. The discussion also explores why the right therapist matters, how spouses can become part of recovery, and why first responders should reach out before reaching rock bottom. Ryan’s message is simple and urgent: you don’t have to carry everything alone. Accept the hand that is offered, do the work, and be willing to leave behind what no longer serves you. Learn more about CALEAP at https://www.caleap.org/ Learn more about the producer of Public Safety Talk Radio at https://www.btcinc.net Learn more about our sponsors, the National Police Federal Credit Union at https://www.nationalpolicefcu.com/ And Police Mortgage at https://policemortgage.com/ Also check out Mortgage Beat on NPPN.Live. Mortgage Beat is brought to you by Police Mortgage, a full-service mortgage company dedicated to serving Police Officers and First Responders. Founded in 2008, Police Mortgage offers a variety of mortgage products tailored to meet the needs of those who serve and protect. To learn more or to apply for a home loan go to policemortgage.com or call 312-499-8878. NMLS #268165 Police Mortgage – For First Responders Who Are Second To None.

