
Episode #72
#72 - The emotional impact of change, with Jonas Keil from nilo
️ Episode summary: Restructuring and continuous change often leave teams exhausted, anxious, and detached from leadership. Jonas Keil, co-founder and CEO of nilo, shares his insights on managing the emotional toll of transformation and building resilient, high-performing cultures that thrive despite uncertainty. In this episode: 00:00 Why Nilo was Founded 03:55 Mental Health During Transformation 08:04 Navigating Constant Change 12:33 Supporting Managers Through Stress 16:23 Uncertainty and Leadership Transparency 21:28 Building Organizational Resilience 27:42 Responsibilities: Company vs. Individual 33:48 Founder Insights and Tough Decisions 41:12 Closing Advice for Leaders Key takeaways: Identify and involve key team members early in the transformation process to build trust and ensure buy-in. Prioritize honesty by sharing what you know and admitting when answers are unavailable during periods of uncertainty. Support middle management by providing peer circles and psychological resources to help them process emotional shocks. Measure the mental health of your organization to spot burnout trends and identify when intervention is required. Acknowledge that transparency about a difficult environment is better than creating a toxic gap between stated values and the reality of high-pressure work. ➡️ About us: People masterminds is a team of scale-up People & Culture leaders who love working with fast-growing companies. We design what scale (or rightsizing) demands. No slide decks, just sharp minds and deep experience. This podcast is our way of sharing knowledge and experience for free. Want to know more about our other services? Visit our website or contact us at info@peoplemasterminds.com


